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DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
#299153 - 11/17/12 12:13 AM
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We got the CPS2 single board version of Marvel Vs. Capcom. The differences I've seen so far are the mask roms are different sizes and the volume is controlled with a knob instead of digital steps. The section in service mode where it normally shows you the volume level is totally missing in this version.
http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/mvcsinglepcb.jpg
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299168 - 11/17/12 05:15 AM
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Always good to see obscure/hard-to-get revisions of games dumped.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299175 - 11/17/12 11:48 AM
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> We got the CPS2 single board version of Marvel Vs. Capcom. The differences I've seen
> so far are the mask roms are different sizes and the volume is controlled with a knob
> instead of digital steps. The section in service mode where it normally shows you the
> volume level is totally missing in this version.
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> http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/mvcsinglepcb.jpg
Very nice - I'd always wondered what differed with these. I can't see the program roms on the PCB anywhere?
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299186 - 11/17/12 06:46 PM
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I declare the best fighting game every made by Capcom.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Treble Winner]
#299188 - 11/17/12 07:06 PM
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They are flash roms surface mounted on the simm card in the top right. That is probably why no single board CPS2 versions are dumped. Hardly anyone can dump them. Also the mask roms need a trick done to read them out where you rewire pin 11.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299195 - 11/17/12 08:24 PM
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> They are flash roms surface mounted on the simm card in the top right. That is
> probably why no single board CPS2 versions are dumped. Hardly anyone can dump them.
> Also the mask roms need a trick done to read them out where you rewire pin 11.
At least you've confirmed that there is some difference in the program roms given the change in the sound test. Shame they're a nightmare to dump.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Treble Winner]
#299197 - 11/17/12 08:47 PM
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From what I can tell from the dump the program code is totally different actually, though it probably results in the player having the same experience. I can dump the other single versions if anyone will loan them to me.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299204 - 11/17/12 10:52 PM
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> From what I can tell from the dump the program code is totally different actually,
> though it probably results in the player having the same experience. I can dump the
> other single versions if anyone will loan them to me.
Are you sure it's not just encrypted with a different key?
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: AWJ]
#299206 - 11/17/12 11:14 PM
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No I don't know if it's just a key difference or not and I don't know exactly what all the pals do but they are all different on this hardware too.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299212 - 11/17/12 11:29 PM
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> From what I can tell from the dump the program code is totally different actually,
> though it probably results in the player having the same experience. I can dump the
> other single versions if anyone will loan them to me.
Are the graphics roms different, too?
Great work, btw.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Foxhack]
#299213 - 11/17/12 11:31 PM
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All the graphics and sound are the same but in different size chips. This uses custom mask roms that are twice as big as the original used.
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Cool, thanks for the reply. *nt*
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299215 - 11/17/12 11:44 PM
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> All the graphics and sound are the same but in different size chips. This uses custom
> mask roms that are twice as big as the original used.
I SAID NO TEXT WHY ARE YOU READING THIS
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Re: Cool, thanks for the reply. *nt*
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#299239 - 11/18/12 03:18 AM
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> > All the graphics and sound are the same but in different size chips. This uses
> custom
> > mask roms that are twice as big as the original used.
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> I SAID NO TEXT WHY ARE YOU READING THIS
Because I'm viewing this topic in flat mode. 
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Re: Cool, thanks for the reply. *nt*
[Re: Qun Mang]
#299241 - 11/18/12 03:36 AM
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> > > All the graphics and sound are the same but in different size chips. This uses
> > custom
> > > mask roms that are twice as big as the original used.
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> > I SAID NO TEXT WHY ARE YOU READING THIS
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> Because I'm viewing this topic in flat mode.
Your mom is in flat mode. 
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299521 - 11/21/12 02:04 AM
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: xibic]
#299522 - 11/21/12 02:11 AM
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That's one of them, there is also Hyper SF2 and I think SFZ3 and others. It turns out the only difference in the rom data was interlacing so I'm not going to be spending money on the others (which are all much more expensive than the Marvel board I bought) but they are worth dumping if someone will loan them to me. The others can't be faked/created from existing dumps because there are too many variables that would have to be guessed so if we are to document them in mame they need to be dumped. Also I've found that some Marvel boards have their program data in a different config/position than the board I have so maybe there are some that don't interlace, I don't know. But basically they need to be loaned instead of bought, unless someone wants to donate a lot of money specifically for them. The volume changes appears to be handled by some register or maybe in a pal. If you are offering to loan out that Gigawing you can send me a PM.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299540 - 11/21/12 04:17 AM
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I am assuming the decryption key for this single-board version is the same as that of the regular set?
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
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#299541 - 11/21/12 04:20 AM
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
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#299720 - 11/23/12 09:37 PM
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Treble Winner]
#299765 - 11/24/12 04:43 PM
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> I found the method to hide the volume slider.
Nice. Figured it would be something like that after the program ROMs turned out to be the same.
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Re: DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party
[Re: Smitdogg]
#299776 - 11/25/12 05:04 AM
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> We got the CPS2 single board version of Marvel Vs. Capcom. The differences I've seen
> so far are the mask roms are different sizes and the volume is controlled with a knob
> instead of digital steps. The section in service mode where it normally shows you the
> volume level is totally missing in this version.
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> http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/mvcsinglepcb.jpg
"DU Update: CPS2 single black male seeks other CPS2 singles for dumping party" raises the horrible possibility of Rule 34.
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