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Boot question for current system gurus
#288146 - 05/29/12 06:37 AM
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When I first got my computer, Vista was installed on the primary drive (250GB). I later purchased 7 and put it on my second drive (500GB), and eventually deleted all the Vista OS files on the original drive, but didn't format it. Good thing, as I now realize the computer still boots off of that drive. I just purchased a 1TB drive to replace the 250GB drive and figured there would be no issue since the OS is on the 500GB drive. "Non-System disk..." error. Ah, forgot to swap the drives to make the 500GB drive the first drive. Of course that didn't work. My information is probably dated (IDE days, current drives are SATA) or I am forgetting something important. SO, I looked up the issue and was pointed to this technet article:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee829686
Only the first part applies as I don't have any other OSes installed. My question is, why do I need to make a tiny partition on the 500GB drive to make it a system partition? My last experience with trying to shrink a partition to make room for another one was complete failure with having to reformat. I assume also it will be a bad idea to try to shrink my Win 7 partition while running Win 7 leaving me with shrinking the larger 350GB partition on the same drive, unless I do it from a bootable CD like Ultimate Boot CD. Will it work to have a system partition in the middle or end of the drive?
In any event, the instructions involve just copying over a few simple files to the new tiny system partition. In light of that, why do I even need the new partition at all? Can I just copy these files to my Win 7 partition and leave it there? If not, why not? Thanks. It sounds the user below says he did this, but I want to be careful that I don't mess this up, which is why I am asking here before I go ahead and try myself:
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(In Reply to: Create a system partition on your new drive by NoahSkier)
After I had cloned my C: drive to a new drive I had installed, using Todo Backup,
http://www.todo-backup.com/
all I had to do was "bcdboot c:\windows /s b:"(drive letter I had designated to partition on new drive). It apparently copied the necessary boot files. I unplugged old drive, booted to new drive, and voila! Good to go.
*!*Note*!* Save yourself an extra hour! In Windows 7, don't just type cmd or Run then cmd to get to bcdboot command. Just type cmd (NOT RUN FIRST!), then Ctrl+Shift+Enter to run elevated. Otherwise you get an error. Hope this helps someone.
Thanks again Noah, for taking the time to post.
Thanks.
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Re: Boot question for current system gurus
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#288160 - 05/29/12 12:10 PM
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You don't need the 100MB SRP (System Reserved Partition) unless you use bitlocker. Put the drive with Windows 7 in alone then boot the Windows 7 or Windows 7 Start-up Repair Disc (You can make it from within Windows 7). Now run start-up repair twice. It should create the boot files you need.
I have to leave for work, so let us know how it goes.
Alternate way to create boot files here...
http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Nor...p/424184#M33076
You can use Windows 7 CD instead of Ghost CD. Start towards the end. Do not run the CLEAN command!
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Re: Boot question for current system gurus
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#288208 - 05/29/12 08:22 PM
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Thanks. I'll take a look at this when I am done working. No bitlocker here as I am running Win 7 Pro. I felt the ultimate version was not worth it for me. So anything that avoids the extra partition is the way to go.
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Re: Boot question for current system gurus
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#288229 - 05/30/12 01:30 AM
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A little more info, I was in a hurry to leave this morning.
Make sure the partition with Windows 7 is marked active.
From the Windows 7 (System Repair) Disc, you can either do the start-up repair twice or at the command prompt type...
DISKPART
LIST VOLUME (note the letter that has your Windows 7 install on it)
EXIT
C:\Windows\System32\BCDBOOT C:\Windows
This is if your Windows partition has the letter C in Windows PE. If it is something else then replace both Cs with the other letter... E:\Windows\System32\BCDBOOT E:\Windows. This has no effect to the letter Windows 7 will use. This is only for Windows PE. Note that the BCDBOOT will create the boot files on the active partition. You are just pointing the command prompt to BCDBOOT and specifing where the OS is that you want to boot.
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Mission accomplished
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#288256 - 05/30/12 06:16 AM
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My new drive has now replaced the 250 gigger and the data is being copied over to the new D: partition from the external drive. Next down the line- copy the E: partition to the new drive, then replace the 500GB drive with an SSD. I already have just the software to do it courtesy of Giveaway of the Day: "Paragon Migrate OS to SSD™ 2.0 Special Edition." I just need to wait a bit to budget in the SSD...
Thanks again. I was going to use the command line method, but when the disc loaded I decided to just let it do it's thing. First time to make C a system drive, the second to add the boot manager (yeah, I tried booting from it after just one round and saw the "non system disk" error replaced with "boot mgr missing").  Twice it was.
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