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etabeta
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ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before
#286886 - 05/18/12 06:41 PM


ProjectMESS makes today a very big step in the way towards being the #1 web-resource for MESS!

As you can see from the homepage or from this link, a whole new section of the website has been opened, featuring MAWS-like pages for each system emulated in MESS (be it a computer, a console, a calculator, a chess machine or a TV decoder).
In each page you can found the technical details about the system, you can see a brief summary of media devices, bios options and RAM options (if any) which are supported in MESS for that specific system. And if the system supports a software list, you can easily jump to the pages for the games of that list!
Moreover, the pages contain images of the machines (mostly thanks to the picture packs by AntoPISA) and all the info from sysinfo.dat, including instructions on how to mount disks, tapes and other software on the emulated system (support for MESSinfo is planned but not ready yet, be patient).

A last feature, one that I'm particularly proud of, is the expansion slot handling. In recent versions of MESS, indeed, some home computers (e.g. C64 and AT386) have been added support for dynamical expansions, so that you can decide at running time how many disk drives, or HDs, or soundcards to connect to the emulated system, and which models you want among the supported ones.
ProjectMESS now allows you to try each combination of options (from the drop-down menus in the Tech Info section for these systems) and see which additional hardware and options result from each configuration.
In my opinion, this feature can be of great help when you want to know which options to use from command line: depending on the chosen expansions, indeed, emulated machines can have no floppy options or can have a dozen of them (e.g. if you connect a sufficient number of Commodore drives through their serial ports), and it is quite difficult to keep track of the additional options which become available in each case.
By using the pages of projectMESS, on the other hand, it is a lot simpler to find out how you can connect e.g. 5 floppy drives and 2 IDE hard disks to a C64 through its IEEE48 expansion, or how you can have three different screens attached to a Macintosh IIx through its NuBus expansions (even if you must be warned that the scripts still give not 100% correct options if you e.g. connect multiple devices in series, and then you remove the first device without removing the remaining ones...)

Have fun!



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286887 - 05/18/12 06:47 PM


I Think twice and it's better MESS going to mame.
Because we donīt need any emulator to play the games.
It's only put the card and move on playing your favorite game.
Marvellous!



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286888 - 05/18/12 07:28 PM


> ProjectMESS now allows you to try each combination of options (from the drop-down
> menus in the Tech Info section for these systems) and see which additional hardware
> and options result from each configuration.
> In my opinion, this feature can be of great help when you want to know which options
> to use from command line: depending on the chosen expansions, indeed, emulated
> machines can have no floppy options or can have a dozen of them (e.g. if you connect
> a sufficient number of Commodore drives through their serial ports), and it is quite
> difficult to keep track of the additional options which become available in each
> case.
> By using the pages of projectMESS, on the other hand, it is a lot simpler to find out
> how you can connect e.g. 5 floppy drives and 2 IDE hard disks to a C64 through its
> IEEE48 expansion, or how you can have three different screens attached to a Macintosh
> IIx through its NuBus expansions (even if you must be warned that the scripts still
> give not 100% correct options if you e.g. connect multiple devices in series, and
> then you remove the first device without removing the remaining ones...)
>
> Have fun!

An idea migh be that the result page of the "configurator" shows you the full CLI command to be entered in MESS to get THAT configuration.....



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etabeta
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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: s_bastian]
#286891 - 05/18/12 08:23 PM


> An idea migh be that the result page of the "configurator" shows you the full CLI
> command to be entered in MESS to get THAT configuration.....

yeah, that was planned, but I got sidetracked by implementing nested optional devices and I forgot about it. I'll add it in the weekend.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286918 - 05/19/12 12:17 AM


Good stuff! I'm sure that was a lot of work.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286929 - 05/19/12 03:12 AM


I found two mistakes in the Intellivision section. "Space Shuttle" is spelled "Space Shuttel", and "Beauty & the Beast" is listed as being from 1978; it is actually from 1982.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286931 - 05/19/12 03:22 AM


It's so nice that milestone! Congrats for your new achievement. I'm sure it will be of great value for all emulation scene.

Meanwhile, MAWS...



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: Lewis King]
#286973 - 05/19/12 02:01 PM


> I Think twice and it's better MESS going to mame.
> Because we donīt need any emulator to play the games.
> It's only put the card and move on playing your favorite game.
> Marvellous!

Yeah, I agreed with you. Don't get me wrong that Mess emulator is a nice machine but I think that it should be part of Mame emulator. Since, they are familiar core or something like that. It is better for Mess to go to Mame instead. Just saying.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#286975 - 05/19/12 03:14 PM


I love this kind of work, thank you very much Fabio!



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#287018 - 05/20/12 12:38 AM


Good job.
A milestone for the project.

...till the next.
And seems everything is pointing to a specific direction.
Just saying.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: NLS]
#287030 - 05/20/12 01:06 AM


You're annoying as fuck.
Just saying.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: Smitdogg]
#287033 - 05/20/12 01:32 AM


So you find fuck annoying.
Weird info I didn't want to know.

(or when not having English as first language is actually useful)

You didn't seem to notice other posts in this thread btw.



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: NLS]
#287034 - 05/20/12 01:39 AM


No machine translator on earth could make the bears half as annoying as you and your broken record.



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I gotta take a piss != I need to use the bathroom. new [Re: Smitdogg]
#287040 - 05/20/12 02:10 AM


> No machine translator on earth could make the bears half as annoying as you and your
> broken record.


ROFLMAO... English isn't my native language, and if I'm the least little bit unsure, I run it through google translate, then re-run the translation back to my native tongue, if it's 99% close it gets posted. If not, i work on simplifying the expression or try to use more correct (correcter?) grammar.

I gotta take a piss != I need to use the bathroom

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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: ]
#287073 - 05/20/12 10:32 AM


> > I Think twice and it's better MESS going to mame.
> > Because we donīt need any emulator to play the games.
> > It's only put the card and move on playing your favorite game.
> > Marvellous!
>
> Yeah, I agreed with you. Don't get me wrong that Mess emulator is a nice machine but
> I think that it should be part of Mame emulator. Since, they are familiar core or
> something like that. It is better for Mess to go to Mame instead. Just saying.

and what has this to do with ProjectMESS??
even if MESS would be merged with MAME, there would be no change concerning options, systems or their emulation state, so for a MAWS-like website there would be no change...



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
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Well done Etabeta !!!

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etabeta
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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: Diet Go Go Fan]
#287790 - 05/25/12 07:56 AM


technically they were mistake in the software list intv.xml

anyway, I have fixed them 1 second ago and they will be ok when I update the website (in a few moments)



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Re: ProjectMESS: Where no MESS website has gone before new [Re: etabeta]
#287805 - 05/25/12 02:55 PM


Thank you. Those mistakes were there a long time. It's good to finally have them gone!


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