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MESSUNI 0.145u8
#285310 - 05/07/12 02:15 PM
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http://messui.the-chronicles.org/messuni/index.html
MESSUNI is a combined build of MESS and MAME, built into the MESSUI frontend.
The games with any of these flags are omitted:
* GAME_IS_SKELETON
* GAME_IS_PINBALL
* *_FLAGS
* GAME_NOT_WORKING
* GAME_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS
* GAME_IMPERFECT_COLORS
* GAME_MECHANICAL
* GAME_UNEMULATED_PROTECTION
* GAME_WRONG_COLORS
Note that everything about this build is preliminary, including the name. Do NOT report any problems to Mametesters, unless you can confirm it in the official MAME or MESS.
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: Robbbert]
#285317 - 05/07/12 02:45 PM
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I am sorry if my questions are stupid, they come from ignorance about things like who is in MAME team, who is in MESS team etc.
So if don't mind:
- Is this something planned to go official?
- How is this related to Haze's unified exe effort? (does it use some of his submitted code?)
- Why pinball and mechanical disabled? Is this the default of normal separated builds too?
Thanks and keep up the good work anyway. 
Edited by NLS (05/07/12 02:46 PM)
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: NLS]
#285320 - 05/07/12 02:59 PM
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> I am sorry if my questions are stupid, they come from ignorance about things like who
> is in MAME team, who is in MESS team etc.
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> So if don't mind:
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> - Is this something planned to go official?
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The GUI build will never be official; No idea if a combined command-line build would become official.
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> - How is this related to Haze's unified exe effort? (does it use some of his
> submitted code?)
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None of his code was used, just the idea of it all.
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> - Why pinball and mechanical disabled? Is this the default of normal separated builds
> too?
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It's a preliminary build; I didn't want to clutter it up with non-working stuff just yet.
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> Thanks and keep up the good work anyway.
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: Robbbert]
#285323 - 05/07/12 03:19 PM
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Clear, thanks.
I wonder if you two could cooperate to the same end?
I am not sure if there is a point to fragment this unification attempt.
(as always this is my "outsider but fan" uneducated output)
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: Robbbert]
#285365 - 05/07/12 05:45 PM
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> http://messui.the-chronicles.org/messuni/index.html
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> MESSUNI is a combined build of MESS and MAME, built into the MESSUI frontend.
> The games with any of these flags are omitted:
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> * GAME_IS_SKELETON
> * GAME_IS_PINBALL
> * *_FLAGS
> * GAME_NOT_WORKING
> * GAME_IMPERFECT_GRAPHICS
> * GAME_IMPERFECT_COLORS
> * GAME_MECHANICAL
> * GAME_UNEMULATED_PROTECTION
> * GAME_WRONG_COLORS
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> Note that everything about this build is preliminary, including the name. Do NOT
> report any problems to Mametesters, unless you can confirm it in the official MAME or
> MESS.
Thanks, Nice effort and good idea to have a united and only working build waiting to get back home to try this
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: MAMu_]
#285575 - 05/08/12 07:52 PM
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I see Computer and Console in the list, Arcade would be useful too 
Talking about the folder list tree.
Edited by zambr (05/08/12 07:55 PM)
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: NLS]
#285690 - 05/09/12 10:05 AM
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> - Why pinball and mechanical disabled? Is this the default of normal separated builds
> too?
because this build is for players, and most players think pinball and mech are bad
the sad thing is that probably nes, snes and gba are removed from the build too, given they are flagged as imperfect graphics, even if thousands of games are perfectly playable at the same levels of the most popular emulators and only a minority have serious bugs...
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: etabeta]
#285692 - 05/09/12 10:24 AM
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> > - Why pinball and mechanical disabled? Is this the default of normal separated
> builds
> > too?
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> because this build is for players, and most players think pinball and mech are bad
You "assume" that based on what statistics?
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: NLS]
#285695 - 05/09/12 12:02 PM
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> > > - Why pinball and mechanical disabled? Is this the default of normal separated
> > builds
> > > too?
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> > because this build is for players, and most players think pinball and mech are bad
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> You "assume" that based on what statistics?
general reactions on these boards (and on mameitalia, and on many other forums more devoted to actual gaming than to pokeroming) when pinball and mechanical skeleton were added. use the search function, young padwan.
I for one support inclusions of skeletons since before being a MAMEDev, and I was one of the first MESSDev to add skeleton drivers in MESS to preserve the BIOSes available around (even if often hacked by emu users to work 'better'...). this personal opinion, anyway, does not obfuscate my view to the point of thinking that the users which just want to play share my view.
luckily, the bunch of people which have to decide (i.e. devs) fully agree with me and with the documentation efforts of the project, so no mechanical game will be removed.
still in your personal crusade against me, you seem to miss the rest of my previous post: this build leaves people without the NES, SNES and GBA pretty good emulation that MESS users can enjoy
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: etabeta]
#285698 - 05/09/12 01:01 PM
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> the sad thing is that probably nes, snes and gba are removed from the build too,
> given they are flagged as imperfect graphics, even if thousands of games are
> perfectly playable at the same levels of the most popular emulators and only a
> minority have serious bugs...
The script process is automatic, I was unaware that these systems were removed.
I'll look at including these systems in the next build. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Re: MESSUNI 0.145u8
[Re: etabeta]
#285708 - 05/09/12 03:36 PM
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> still in your personal crusade against me, you seem to miss the rest of my previous
you flatter yourself now
"personal crusade against you"?
why?
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