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Tea Party Zombies must die
#264143 - 09/07/11 05:34 PM
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: Tomu Breidah]
#264146 - 09/07/11 06:17 PM
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> http://teapartyzombiesmustdie.com/
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> I wonder if there are any hoardes of aborted babies?
"I'm afraid of conservatives, so I must make baseless attacks on them."
Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you ignorant fools.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264148 - 09/07/11 06:26 PM
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> Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you
> ignorant fools.
largely composed of white people
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See if they will make a shmup (nt)
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264151 - 09/07/11 06:50 PM
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> http://teapartyzombiesmustdie.com/
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> I wonder if there are any hoardes of aborted babies?
I refuse to insult the intelligence of Zombies by comparing them to Tea Party members.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264155 - 09/07/11 07:32 PM
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Isnt it funny that when the klan history is discussed somehow its always
left out it was started to kill republicans and blacks ?
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264163 - 09/07/11 08:21 PM
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The Tea Party is a fringe group of conservatism, and thus opens itself up for ridicule. Fringe/extremist groups serve only to polarize. What you end up with is a government that is far more interested in shutting down the other side than actually looking out for the good of the country.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264166 - 09/07/11 08:31 PM
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> Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you ignorant fools.
If you want to go down that road... Martin Luther King Jr. was a registered Republican.
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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.
While they paint the "Tea Party" as being for the "rich", they miss the big picture where they are for individual liberty and the right to self determination... which a road OUT of poverty... government dependance is a road TO poverty and servitude.
Why is it a good thing that there are 39% fewer millionaires under the current administration... shouldn't we want MORE Americans to be prosperous, not less? Why is bringing American prosperity to a halt a good thing?
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: Renegade]
#264169 - 09/07/11 09:03 PM
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> Isnt it funny that when the klan history is discussed somehow its always
> left out it was started to kill republicans and blacks ?
Then shut down by a Republican President until reignited by Birth of a Nation (1915, not the other one).
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: igamabob]
#264170 - 09/07/11 09:05 PM
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> The Tea Party is a fringe group of conservatism, and thus opens itself up for
> ridicule. Fringe/extremist groups serve only to polarize. What you end up with is a
> government that is far more interested in shutting down the other side than actually
> looking out for the good of the country.
Better to have two poles than one.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264176 - 09/07/11 09:50 PM
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> > The Tea Party is a fringe group of conservatism, and thus opens itself up for
> > ridicule. Fringe/extremist groups serve only to polarize. What you end up with is a
> > government that is far more interested in shutting down the other side than
> actually
> > looking out for the good of the country.
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> Better to have two poles than one.
Differing opinions, yes, but 'You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try to stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate' goes nowhere.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: igamabob]
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> > > The Tea Party is a fringe group of conservatism, and thus opens itself up for
> > > ridicule. Fringe/extremist groups serve only to polarize. What you end up with is
> a
> > > government that is far more interested in shutting down the other side than
> > actually
> > > looking out for the good of the country.
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> > Better to have two poles than one.
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> Differing opinions, yes, but 'You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try to
> stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate' goes nowhere.
Hahah. Have you seen this game, called, what was it, something like "Tea Party Zombies must Die?"
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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> > > > The Tea Party is a fringe group of conservatism, and thus opens itself up for
> > > > ridicule. Fringe/extremist groups serve only to polarize. What you end up with
> is
> > a
> > > > government that is far more interested in shutting down the other side than
> > > actually
> > > > looking out for the good of the country.
> > >
> > > Better to have two poles than one.
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> > Differing opinions, yes, but 'You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try
> to
> > stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate' goes nowhere.
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> Hahah. Have you seen this game, called, what was it, something like "Tea Party
> Zombies must Die?"
Teehee, haha, yes, and did I make any comments one way or another about the game itself?
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264204 - 09/08/11 04:14 AM
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> > http://teapartyzombiesmustdie.com/
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> > I wonder if there are any hoardes of aborted babies?
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> "I'm afraid of conservatives, so I must make baseless attacks on them."
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> Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you
> ignorant fools.
Yeah, but what people who bring that canard up never mention is that in the 19th century, the Democrats were the conservative party and the Republicans were the radical party. The Republican party was founded pretty much specifically to oppose slavery, which the entire economy of the US South was based around and which was considered a sacrosanct property right by (white) Southerners. You could almost call the 1850s Republicans the Pirate Party of their day.
Political alignments and parties change over time, and 160 years is a long, long time. All you have to look at is the fact that something like 90% of African Americans are Democrats. That's far and away the most monolithic ethnic voting bloc in the country. You pretty much have to be a racist to think that 90% of the population are too dumb to know which party at least pretends to represent their interests.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264205 - 09/08/11 04:19 AM
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> Differing opinions, yes, but 'You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try to stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate' goes nowhere.
Yes, that's true. But remember when the Dems had a super majority in both houses, they held legislative sessions literally behind closed doors and barred the other party from even attending because they didn't care to work together and come to ANY compromises since they didn't have to. The public responded in outrage which resulted in a landslide historic replacement of the house with "tea party" candidates. The Senate would have met a similar fate except only 1/3 of the Senate was up for election. So now they HAVE to work together and compromise on legislation, and they hate that. The monopoly power is over.
When they monopolized the government they were calling for "civil discourse" from the increasingly vocal opposition. Now that they've taken a beating in the ballots and the polls, it's ok to use inflamatory rhetoric like "they want to see black people hanging from trees" or mafia stylized threats like "It's time to take them out." Where's the condemnation now? Suddenly, no uncivil discourse is off limits because it serves the agenda of those still in power.
Opposition is not a bad thing... it's what keeps our government moderate, by design. Demonizing one party because they oppose the ideas of the other isn't constructive... it's anti-democracy. It's akin to state control, martial law, censorship... however you want to label it, it's trying to silence any opposition. That's what bothers me the most about this administration... it's sheer arrogance and contempt... if you don't support it's agenda, they demonize with labels like racist, terrorist, uncompromising, unpatriotic. What happened to freedom of speech, equal voice, DEMOCRACY?
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264207 - 09/08/11 04:34 AM
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"That's what bothers me the most about this administration... it's sheer arrogance and contempt... if you don't support it's agenda, they demonize with labels like racist, terrorist, uncompromising, unpatriotic."
Wasn't it the Bush admin that called people terrorist and unpatriotic? "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264208 - 09/08/11 04:52 AM
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>Wasn't it the Bush admin
Is he running for office again?
The only thing that keeps Bush "relevant" is that he is the go-to defense for Obama's failures; "Well, he did it too."
It's a juvenile defense without substance, which calls for a parental response: "If everyone jumped off a bridge would you do it too?"
But like my Mom used to say, "I don't care who started it, I'm going to finish it" (usually followed by a good ass-whooping with a shoe). America needs to get its apron on and "finish it" too. If the Republicans couldn't do it, and the Democrats aren't doing it... then that's probably why a third party is emerging... to get it done.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264209 - 09/08/11 05:07 AM
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> > Differing opinions, yes, but 'You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try
> to stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate' goes nowhere.
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> Yes, that's true. But remember when the Dems had a super majority in both houses,
> they held legislative sessions literally behind closed doors and barred the other
> party from even attending because they didn't care to work together and come to ANY
> compromises since they didn't have to. The public responded in outrage which resulted
> in a landslide historic replacement of the house with "tea party" candidates. The
> Senate would have met a similar fate except only 1/3 of the Senate was up for
> election. So now they HAVE to work together and compromise on legislation, and they
> hate that. The monopoly power is over.
>
> When they monopolized the government they were calling for "civil discourse" from the
> increasingly vocal opposition. Now that they've taken a beating in the ballots and
> the polls, it's ok to use inflamatory rhetoric like "they want to see black people
> hanging from trees" or mafia stylized threats like "It's time to take them out."
> Where's the condemnation now? Suddenly, no uncivil discourse is off limits because it
> serves the agenda of those still in power.
>
> Opposition is not a bad thing... it's what keeps our government moderate, by design.
> Demonizing one party because they oppose the ideas of the other isn't constructive...
> it's anti-democracy. It's akin to state control, martial law, censorship... however
> you want to label it, it's trying to silence any opposition. That's what bothers me
> the most about this administration... it's sheer arrogance and contempt... if you
> don't support it's agenda, they demonize with labels like racist, terrorist,
> uncompromising, unpatriotic. What happened to freedom of speech, equal voice,
> DEMOCRACY?
That's exactly my point about extremism and polarization, it completely stops civil discourse. I'm all about legit and open debate, but when you get statements like (and this is simply an example that comes to mind because I heard a reference to it this morning, I'm not saying one side does it more than another, and I'm sure I can find many similar to it on the left)
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"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," - Mitch McConnell
there's a huge disconnect, and the job of governing the people has been completely lost.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: AWJ]
#264210 - 09/08/11 05:10 AM
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> > > http://teapartyzombiesmustdie.com/
> > >
> > > I wonder if there are any hoardes of aborted babies?
> >
> > "I'm afraid of conservatives, so I must make baseless attacks on them."
> >
> > Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you
> > ignorant fools.
>
> Yeah, but what people who bring that canard up never mention is that in the 19th
> century, the Democrats were the conservative party and the Republicans were the
> radical party. The Republican party was founded pretty much specifically to oppose
> slavery, which the entire economy of the US South was based around and which was
> considered a sacrosanct property right by (white) Southerners. You could almost call
> the 1850s Republicans the Pirate Party of their day.
>
> Political alignments and parties change over time, and 160 years is a long, long
> time. All you have to look at is the fact that something like 90% of African
> Americans are Democrats. That's far and away the most monolithic ethnic voting bloc
> in the country. You pretty much have to be a racist to think that 90% of the
> population are too dumb to know which party at least pretends to represent their
> interests.
You keep using these 'facts'...
Republic = Representative Government = Bigger centralized government, a necessary evil for a time when 'one man, one vote' was logistically impossible.
Democracy = One man, one vote, almost no central government (maybe a prime-minister of some sort, and a small senatorial body to deal with day-to-day things)
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: GatKong]
#264211 - 09/08/11 05:17 AM
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Actually what I meant is that I don't remember Obama throwing around the unpatriotic stuff outside of calling Bush unpatriotic for adding so much debt. Most of the patriot rhetoric I remember was from the previous administration.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
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#264215 - 09/08/11 05:41 AM
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> Republic = Representative Government = Bigger centralized government, a necessary
> evil for a time when 'one man, one vote' was logistically impossible.
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> Democracy = One man, one vote, almost no central government (maybe a prime-minister
> of some sort, and a small senatorial body to deal with day-to-day things)
Well, at the risk of seeming "contrary", Social Science characterizes them as:
Republic: Representative government ruled by laws.
Democracy: Majority rules.
Our founding fathers purposefully made us a Republic, a representative nation of laws, to prevent the "mob effect" of a pure democracy. No where is the word "democratic" in our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, nor any Constitution of the 50 states.
Perfect example of the mob-effect of Democracy is a lynch mob. They capture their target, vote to hang him... 35 yays (the mob) to 1 nay (the guy they caught)... and he's hung on the spot.
Under a nation ruled by laws and representation, not majority vote, he is entitled to a trial by law first.
Quite honestly, we've shifted closer and closer to a democracy, and all of it's trappings... the most glaring example is our tax laws... 9 to 1 vote to take the money from the 1. Under a rule of law, the tax code would equally distribute the tax burden... usually referred to as a "flat tax", where one tax rate is applicable to all Americans without prejudice or favoritism.
Awesome video... please watch it.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: igamabob]
#264222 - 09/08/11 09:37 AM
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> ...and did I make any comments one way or another about the game
> itself?
Yes, you said, "You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try to stop anything you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate," which could easily be a direct quote from whoever made it.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: AWJ]
#264225 - 09/08/11 10:12 AM
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> > > http://teapartyzombiesmustdie.com/
> > >
> > > I wonder if there are any hoardes of aborted babies?
> >
> > "I'm afraid of conservatives, so I must make baseless attacks on them."
> >
> > Damnit, the Klan was created by, and is still largely composed of, Democrats, you
> > ignorant fools.
>
> Yeah, but what people who bring that canard up never mention is that in the 19th
> century, the Democrats were the conservative party and the Republicans were the
> radical party. The Republican party was founded pretty much specifically to oppose
> slavery, which the entire economy of the US South was based around and which was
> considered a sacrosanct property right by (white) Southerners. You could almost call
> the 1850s Republicans the Pirate Party of their day.
>
> Political alignments and parties change over time, and 160 years is a long, long
> time. All you have to look at is the fact that something like 90% of African
> Americans are Democrats. That's far and away the most monolithic ethnic voting bloc
> in the country. You pretty much have to be a racist to think that 90% of the
> population are too dumb to know which party at least pretends to represent their
> interests.
"Canard?" Look at your own text. It comes closer to being "false and unfounded" than anything I said. We use the words "conservative" and "liberal," but they have never been accurate descriptors for either party, only for certain policies espoused by them. The Republicans wanted to liberate, and yes, make a "radical" change to the racist way of life the south had been practicing. Democrats today STILL want an underpaid underclass of imported workers. Republicans tried in the '80s to eliminate that group by raising them up, but that didn't work, as they were replaced several times over. Now the Republicans are called racist for trying other ways of stopping today's substitute for slavery.
I an mot being at all racist when I say 90% of the population as a whole are too dumb know a lot of things. Gah, I'm tired of typing, and there's more to be said about demographics.
You're right about one thing; both the R and D parties only pretend to represent the interests of someone other that the people that get elected. The largest group of people to have realized this is the group being mocked here. Their name makes quite clear that their number one agenda is taxes.
No, I have never voted for anyone affiliated with the Tea Party. I also have never been able to, so that doesn't mean much.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: TriggerFin]
#264228 - 09/08/11 01:13 PM
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> > ...and did I make any comments one way or another about the game
> > itself?
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> Yes, you said, "You're from *insert party here* so I'm going to try to stop anything
> you do rather than try to have an intelligent debate," which could easily be a direct
> quote from whoever made it.
Wow, so somewhere in that statement the words 'Tea Party Zombies Must Die' exist, and they are so very well hidden that even I can't see where they are.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: GatKong]
#264229 - 09/08/11 01:22 PM
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> > Republic = Representative Government = Bigger centralized government, a necessary
> > evil for a time when 'one man, one vote' was logistically impossible.
> >
> > Democracy = One man, one vote, almost no central government (maybe a prime-minister
> > of some sort, and a small senatorial body to deal with day-to-day things)
>
> Well, at the risk of seeming "contrary", Social Science characterizes them as:
>
> Republic: Representative government ruled by laws.
> Democracy: Majority rules.
>
> Our founding fathers purposefully made us a Republic, a representative nation of
> laws, to prevent the "mob effect" of a pure democracy. No where is the word
> "democratic" in our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, nor
> any Constitution of the 50 states.
>
> Perfect example of the mob-effect of Democracy is a lynch mob. They capture their
> target, vote to hang him... 35 yays (the mob) to 1 nay (the guy they caught)... and
> he's hung on the spot.
>
> Under a nation ruled by laws and representation, not majority vote, he is entitled to
> a trial by law first.
>
> Quite honestly, we've shifted closer and closer to a democracy, and all of it's
> trappings... the most glaring example is our tax laws... 9 to 1 vote to take the
> money from the 1. Under a rule of law, the tax code would equally distribute the tax
> burden... usually referred to as a "flat tax", where one tax rate is applicable to
> all Americans without prejudice or favoritism.
>
>
> Awesome video... please watch it.
That is a great video, and yes, I was being rather generalized in my definitions. I can't agree more on the flat tax idea, but with so many politicians being in the pockets of big business (remember 'Corporations are people too') it's not going to happen without a complete turnover of all incumbents, and then it'll just be a matter of time before the game starts again.
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: igamabob]
#264253 - 09/08/11 07:50 PM
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This administration is trying hard to demonize the tea party.
They are afraid it will grow. from day 1 they have laughed at
it to down rite demonizing it. I'm an independent but Im smart
enough to know the tea party is alot larger and more diverse
than this administration wants to admit and that's their first
mistake.
After almost 3 yrs in office I think the excuse "it's bushes Fault"
is a little old. What hurt the economy the worst is the health
care bill. First off obama should have spent all that energy into
the economy instead of a health care bill second many many companies
large and small have said since day one it passed that they would 1-
not do any more hiring 2- hold on to money and assets until they
seen what kind of tax burdens would come with and from it but again
the news makes no mention of that when talking about the economy woes.
If I were a bussiness owner can't say I blame them seeing how the tax
burdens of the health bill is still unkown to this day.....
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Re: Tea Party Zombies must die
[Re: Renegade]
#264254 - 09/08/11 07:57 PM
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> '
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> This administration is trying hard to demonize the tea party.
> They are afraid it will grow. from day 1 they have laughed at
> it to down rite demonizing it. I'm an independent but Im smart
> enough to know the tea party is alot larger and more diverse
> than this administration wants to admit and that's their first
> mistake.
>
> After almost 3 yrs in office I think the excuse "it's bushes Fault"
> is a little old. What hurt the economy the worst is the health
> care bill. First off obama should have spent all that energy into
> the economy instead of a health care bill second many many companies
> large and small have said since day one it passed that they would 1-
> not do any more hiring 2- hold on to money and assets until they
> seen what kind of tax burdens would come with and from it but again
> the news makes no mention of that when talking about the economy woes.
>
> If I were a bussiness owner can't say I blame them seeing how the tax
> burdens of the health bill is still unkown to this day.....
You guys keep making my point. The parties have become so polarized that each is trying to demonize the other and trying to stonewall. Meanwhile absolutely nothing is getting done.
As the healthcare bill really hasn't gone into effect, I'm not sure that you can say that it 'hurt the economy' more than banks that were able to sell bad mortgages with one hand while betting against the market with the other hand.
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