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Using your parking brake
#257558 - 06/16/11 11:19 AM
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I was taught to use my parking brake (of course, I learned on a stick), and have always used it. Seems these days, regardless of age or sex, most people don't. Here's a contemporary reason *to* use it:
Q. After recently having my brakes repaired, the service adviser informed me that I need to set my parking brake every time I park my car. He said it assisted in keeping the rear brakes adjusting, is this true and how?
A. Your service adviser is absolutely correct and better educated than most. Most modern cars and light trucks use what is called a single or non-servo rear brake. These brake designs have the self adjuster connected to the parking brake assemblies and do require park brake usage to ensure rear brake adjustment. This not only ensures proper rear brake operation but also helps keep the brake pedal high and the brakes functioning better keeping excess load from prematurely wearing the front brakes. The days of having to sharply apply the brakes while moving in reverse are almost gone; some vehicles still require this, so check with your brake system specialist to find out what kind you have.
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: mogli]
#257567 - 06/16/11 02:03 PM
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> I was taught to use my parking brake (of course, I learned on a stick), and have
> always used it. Seems these days, regardless of age or sex, most people don't. Here's
> a contemporary reason *to* use it:
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> Q. After recently having my brakes repaired, the service adviser informed me that I
> need to set my parking brake every time I park my car. He said it assisted in keeping
> the rear brakes adjusting, is this true and how?
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> A. Your service adviser is absolutely correct and better educated than most. Most
> modern cars and light trucks use what is called a single or non-servo rear brake.
> These brake designs have the self adjuster connected to the parking brake assemblies
> and do require park brake usage to ensure rear brake adjustment. This not only
> ensures proper rear brake operation but also helps keep the brake pedal high and the
> brakes functioning better keeping excess load from prematurely wearing the front
> brakes. The days of having to sharply apply the brakes while moving in reverse are
> almost gone; some vehicles still require this, so check with your brake system
> specialist to find out what kind you have.
This statement only applies if you've got drums in back.
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: italie]
#257574 - 06/16/11 03:54 PM
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I've got drums on back and they adjust when you back up, not from the parking brake. The parking brake also has a self adjusting feature by the handle to compensate for cable stretch. That said, I do use the parking brake. I've been driving cars with manual transmissions since I started driving. When I first started driving, I would just leave it in gear and not set the parking brake. One time I stepped out to get gas and when I was reaching for the pump handle, I heard the sound of movement. I turned around and realized that my car was rolling away. I was able to dive in and yank the parking brake up! Guess I left her in neutral. Anyway, after that, I always set the parking brake.
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: mogli]
#257584 - 06/16/11 04:45 PM
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> I was taught to use my parking brake (of course, I learned on a stick), and have
> always used it. Seems these days, regardless of age or sex, most people don't.
I've always owned automatics, but I used to set it every time. I kind of got out of the habit after I set it one day and the car went *BOING* - the cable snapped. These days I use it if I'm parked on any kind of incline, it's better than letting the car bounce off the parking pawl, but on a level surface I don't bother.
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: mogli]
#257585 - 06/16/11 04:49 PM
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Setting the Parking brake and releasing it properly also saves wear and tear on the transmission as well as other components. There is less 'jerking' when bringing the car into gear from park, as well as minimal or any shifting of the vechicle when placed into park and turning the car off. Try this test:
1) When parking the car, secured in the place you want the car to remain, keep your foot remaining on the brake pedal while placing the car into park, and then applying the parking brake. Note how much the car shifts or 'jerks' back and a little forward. It is minimal, if at all, when you release the brake pedal.
2) Now performing the park without the parking brake. Your foot is on the brake, you shift the car into park and release the brake pedal. Note how much more the car shifts or 'jerks' back after you remove your foot from the brake without the parking brake.
Second test - And most noticable if your car is parked on an incline - but still pretty noticable on level road as well.
1) Your car DID NOT have the parking brake applied prior to turning the ignition off and removing your foot from the brake pedal (Scenario 2 in the first test); note the noise and movement from the vehicle when the car is placed from park into drive.
2) Your car DID have the parking brake applied (Scenario 1 in the first test); note how much less noise and movement comes from the vehicle when the car is placed into drive as a result of the parking brake being set when parked. Once the car is placed in Drive, then you remove the parking brake (With your foot on the brake pedal of course).
In the above instances I experience a quieter and smoother outcome in shifting to park and turning the car off and going from park to drive in many different vehicles, incluiding: Buicks, Hondas, Toyotas, Oldsmobiles, Hyndais, Acuras, Lexus, and Lincolns.
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Pettle? Break?
[Re: Trebor]
#257591 - 06/16/11 05:31 PM
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Basic literacy below 40% approval 
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> > A. Your service adviser is absolutely correct and better educated than most. Most
> > modern cars and light trucks use what is called a single or non-servo rear brake.
> > These brake designs have the self adjuster connected to the parking brake
> assemblies
> > and do require park brake usage to ensure rear brake adjustment. This not only
> > ensures proper rear brake operation but also helps keep the brake pedal high and
> the
> > brakes functioning better keeping excess load from prematurely wearing the front
> > brakes. The days of having to sharply apply the brakes while moving in reverse are
> > almost gone; some vehicles still require this, so check with your brake system
> > specialist to find out what kind you have.
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> This statement only applies if you've got drums in back.
Or drums in your trunk.
This is our roadie's Fiat Uno with all of the bands equipment loaded in it. Tetris!
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#257603 - 06/16/11 08:05 PM
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> Basic literacy below 40% approval
LOL..Very funny...So I was thinking about selling products and taking a rest in a few spots...Corrected the ones in error...*Hoping the message focus wasn't lost despite some grammatical issues*.
The important thing is to definitely use the parking brake. It saves wear and tear on the vehicle.
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: Trebor]
#257605 - 06/16/11 09:01 PM
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> > Basic literacy below 40% approval
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> LOL..Very funny...So I was thinking about selling products and taking a rest in a few
> spots...Corrected the ones in error...*Hoping the message focus wasn't lost despite
> some grammatical issues*.
I four one cannot accept the poor grammer around hear latley. U popels need to get you're act together.
( I think Trigg just had an aneurysm )
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: italie]
#257606 - 06/16/11 09:36 PM
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> I four one cannot accept the poor grammer around hear latley. U popels need to get
> you're act together.
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> ( I think Trigg just had an aneurysm )
Aw, you missed an opportunity to throw in except instead of accept.
A favorite of mine, right up there with confusing affect and effect. 
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#257607 - 06/16/11 10:03 PM
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: Trebor]
#257612 - 06/16/11 11:25 PM
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> > I four one cannot accept the poor grammer around hear latley. U popels need to get
> > you're act together.
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> > ( I think Trigg just had an aneurysm )
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> Aw, you missed an opportunity to throw in except instead of accept.
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> A favorite of mine, right up there with confusing affect and effect.
He thought he was using the wrong one.
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: Gor]
#257619 - 06/17/11 01:16 AM
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> > > I four one cannot accept the poor grammer around hear latley. U popels need to
> get
> > > you're act together.
> > >
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> > > ( I think Trigg just had an aneurysm )
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> > Aw, you missed an opportunity to throw in except instead of accept.
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> > A favorite of mine, right up there with confusing affect and effect.
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> He thought he was using the wrong one.
Could have gone with 'Eye' instead of 'I' too - sub-optimal! Disappointing!
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: Fever]
#257645 - 06/17/11 06:10 AM
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> > > > I four one cannot accept the poor grammer around hear latley. U popels need to
> > get
> > > > you're act together.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ( I think Trigg just had an aneurysm )
> > >
> > > Aw, you missed an opportunity to throw in except instead of accept.
> > >
> > > A favorite of mine, right up there with confusing affect and effect.
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> > He thought he was using the wrong one.
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> Could have gone with 'Eye' instead of 'I' too - sub-optimal! Disappointing!
Not to mention using the correct "one" and "to."
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: redk9258]
#257702 - 06/17/11 10:18 PM
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> I've got drums on back and they adjust when you back up, not from the parking brake.
> The parking brake also has a self adjusting feature by the handle to compensate for
> cable stretch. That said, I do use the parking brake. I've been driving cars with
> manual transmissions since I started driving. When I first started driving, I would
> just leave it in gear and not set the parking brake. One time I stepped out to get
> gas and when I was reaching for the pump handle, I heard the sound of movement. I
> turned around and realized that my car was rolling away. I was able to dive in and
> yank the parking brake up! Guess I left her in neutral. Anyway, after that, I always
> set the parking brake.
The problem with leaving it in gear *only* is that it only takes a mis-placed foot or hand to take it out.... Sometimes the centering spring in the shifter will take it out, if there's not enough pull from the vehicle weight.
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Re: Using your parking brake
[Re: DMala]
#257703 - 06/17/11 10:29 PM
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reposted elsewhere
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Consider it high comedy....sincere tragedy....whatever...don't take it personally.
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Re: Pettle? Break?
[Re: TriggerFin]
#257706 - 06/17/11 10:41 PM
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> Not to mention using the correct "one" and "to."
Mm, can't do all the words that way. Then it's pedantic, and the joke loses its poignance.
Anyways, yeah, sometimes even on a fairly flat surface, the car will shift, and on occasion lock the shifter.
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