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DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small
#252113 - 04/18/11 07:56 PM




f205v loaned me his GigaMan 2 board to dump. It's a weird bootleg of Mega Man 2.

http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/gigaman2.jpg



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Smitdogg]
#252122 - 04/18/11 11:15 PM


> f205v loaned me his GigaMan 2 board to dump. It's a weird bootleg of Mega Man 2.
>
> http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/gigaman2.jpg

Oooh. Nice! Interesting little non-phoenix-based bootleg (iirc).



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: iq_132]
#252123 - 04/18/11 11:17 PM


I think it uses XOR tables and samples (sounds like crap compared to CPS2 QSound). It sounds like a frog's ass in a tin can. I'm not fond of it myself but I'll dump it.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Smitdogg]
#252125 - 04/18/11 11:38 PM


nice, another cpsBootleg


but the sound is very crappy?

ps: need a video from the gameplay (principally the sound)



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: fortuna_chan]
#252126 - 04/18/11 11:42 PM


It sounds like they reduced the frequency and bitrate down to get it all to fit on the chip, yes. I tried to get a video but it doesn't like my S-Video converter, though it looks perfect through my VGA out converter, but that one can't be recorded. Anyway, a video shouldn't be necessary. It's just going to be playing samples. If it sounds like a frog's ass in a tin can, it's accurate.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Smitdogg]
#252127 - 04/18/11 11:50 PM


> It sounds like they reduced the frequency and bitrate down to get it all to fit on
> the chip, yes.

Looks like an OKI 6295 with the numbers rubbed off. So all the music has to be collapsed from live-sequenced to a single mono compressed stream, which is going to sound like ass even before you get to the sound effects.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Smitdogg]
#252133 - 04/19/11 01:06 AM


> It sounds like they reduced the frequency and bitrate down to get it all to fit on
> the chip, yes. I tried to get a video but it doesn't like my S-Video converter,
> though it looks perfect through my VGA out converter, but that one can't be recorded.
> Anyway, a video shouldn't be necessary. It's just going to be playing samples. If it
> sounds like a frog's ass in a tin can, it's accurate.

Would it be possible to post an audio sample?

I'd like to know what a frog's ass in a tin can sounds like.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Foxhack]
#252147 - 04/19/11 04:27 AM


Maybe later, the board is in pieces (desoldered) for dumping.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: R. Belmont]
#252160 - 04/19/11 09:41 AM


> > It sounds like they reduced the frequency and bitrate down to get it all to fit on
> > the chip, yes.
>
> Looks like an OKI 6295 with the numbers rubbed off

On a 6295 the sample frequency setting pin is always hard-wired to +5V in 99% of cases or ground. There's a trace coming from that pin going to logic so not 6295.

Quite interesting though that seemingly just Americans know what ass sounds like and everyone else doesn't? Do all Americans listen to ass or is it just a random occurrence on special occasions for a select few?



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: TheGuru]
#252164 - 04/19/11 02:29 PM


> On a 6295 the sample frequency setting pin is always hard-wired to +5V in 99% of
> cases or ground. There's a trace coming from that pin going to logic so not 6295.

Not necessarily; CPS-1 for example, had control over the frequency pin of its 6295 to switch between low/high frequency samples. The bootleggers appear to have done likewise to squeeze all the effects and music into half of an 8Mx16 ROM (why they couldn't/didn't use the other half we can only guess).


> Quite interesting though that seemingly just Americans know what ass sounds like and
> everyone else doesn't? Do all Americans listen to ass or is it just a random
> occurrence on special occasions for a select few?

Apparently it sounds like arse.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Phil Bennett]
#252165 - 04/19/11 02:40 PM


> > Quite interesting though that seemingly just Americans know what ass sounds like and
> > everyone else doesn't? Do all Americans listen to ass or is it just a random
> > occurrence on special occasions for a select few?
>
> Apparently it sounds like arse.

Oh, I thought he was talking about a donkey owned by a frog.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Phil Bennett]
#252210 - 04/19/11 11:16 PM


> > On a 6295 the sample frequency setting pin is always hard-wired to +5V in 99% of
> > cases or ground. There's a trace coming from that pin going to logic so not 6295.
>
> Not necessarily; CPS-1 for example, had control over the frequency pin of its 6295 to
> switch between low/high frequency samples. The bootleggers appear to have done
> likewise to squeeze all the effects and music into half of an 8Mx16 ROM (why they
> couldn't/didn't use the other half we can only guess).

ok, the other check is to see if pin 5 is the clock.



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Re: DU Update: To be such a giga man, you sure are small new [Re: Foxhack]
#252461 - 04/21/11 08:06 PM Attachment: frogsassinatincan.mp3 1226 KB (11 downloads)



> Would it be possible to post an audio sample?
>
> I'd like to know what a frog's ass in a tin can sounds like.


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