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Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
#248698 - 03/12/11 08:43 PM
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Super Milk-Chan]
#248700 - 03/12/11 08:56 PM
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Super Milk-Chan]
#248710 - 03/12/11 10:37 PM
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> It's been wrong for over a decade now.
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> Here's an original cabinet with (obviously) correct sound:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxbz8hy7og#t=0m35s
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> Mame:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMGsltplyU#t=0m20s
and guess what? When you ask any mamedevs to fix something,the chances of them working on it in your lifetime decrease by about 95%. 
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Master O]
#248713 - 03/12/11 11:32 PM
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> and guess what? When you ask any mamedevs to fix something,the chances of them
> working on it in your lifetime decrease by about 95%.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Tafoid]
#248714 - 03/12/11 11:38 PM
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> http://www.mametesters.org/view.php?id=1988
> It is a known issue and logged already. When will it be fixed or working exactly as
> the original? Hard to tell - there is a lot of custom sound/discrete emulation
> involved.
Thanks for the info, I did search there but I must have screwed up my search.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Tafoid]
#248723 - 03/13/11 04:01 AM
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> > It's been wrong for over a decade now.
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> > Here's an original cabinet with (obviously) correct sound:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxbz8hy7og#t=0m35s
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> > Mame:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMGsltplyU#t=0m20s
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> http://www.mametesters.org/view.php?id=1988
> It is a known issue and logged already. When will it be fixed or working exactly as
> the original? Hard to tell - there is a lot of custom sound/discrete emulation
> involved.
I can't view the report (I only get an Apache test page) but I have a Pleiades PCB here so I can offer more info. The game uses a custom chip for the music which hasn't been reverse-engineered. The schematics are available and the discrete part should be a walk in the park for someone like Derrick so that's obviously not why there's no music in the game.....
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Super Milk-Chan]
#248735 - 03/13/11 09:00 AM
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Things do get fix.
Why just a month ago Star Fire got correct colors.
At least your game has sound.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: TheGuru]
#248741 - 03/13/11 12:01 PM
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> I can't view the report (I only get an Apache test page)
Guess you're still banned :-) (your dynamic ip range used to collide with an annoying individual didn't it?)
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Tourniquet]
#248742 - 03/13/11 12:31 PM
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Sigh...just watched that video of Pleiades running on a proper arcade CRT, and it just reminded me of how utterly shit modern LCD's make anything in MAME look.
Every time i use MAME, i weep at the day i sold my 19' Mitsubishi Diamond Pro CRT monitor back in 2005 to make the jump to an LCD, thinking it was an upgrade...it wasnt.:(
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Ziggy100]
#248768 - 03/14/11 12:00 AM
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> Sigh...just watched that video of Pleiades running on a proper arcade CRT, and it
> just reminded me of how utterly shit modern LCD's make anything in MAME look.
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> Every time i use MAME, i weep at the day i sold my 19' Mitsubishi Diamond Pro CRT
> monitor back in 2005 to make the jump to an LCD, thinking it was an upgrade...it
> wasnt.
Old CRT monitors like that are cheap and easy to come by on, e.g. craigslist, if you want to switch back.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: TheGuru]
#248812 - 03/14/11 11:09 AM
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> ... I have a Pleiades PCB here so I can offer more info.
The "alarm sound" in the TMS36xx chips is unknown, i.e. the tune1 array in src/emu/sound/tms36xx.c. If we could manage to acquire the notes it plays, this seems to be one fix, as the melody in the original video clip is (of course) different from the melody which I put in there.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: pullmoll]
#248966 - 03/16/11 12:00 AM
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> ... I have a Pleiades PCB here so I can offer more info.
>The "alarm sound" in the TMS36xx chips is unknown, i.e. the tune1 array in src/emu/sound/tms36xx.c.
>If we could manage to acquire the notes it plays, this seems to be one fix, as the
> melody in the original video clip is (of course) different from the melody which I put
> in there.
http://mamedev.org/source/src/mame/drivers/phoenix.c.html
Heh. A long time ago with that work there. I am guessing that was at the time when Atari System 1 hardware protection was just figured out back then while Neogeo fans were also jumping up and down with Neo Geo support was starting to be supported in MAME. 
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Tourniquet]
#249134 - 03/17/11 11:09 PM
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> > I can't view the report (I only get an Apache test page)
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> Guess you're still banned :-) (your dynamic ip range used to collide with an annoying
> individual didn't it?)
yes but it was supposed to be fixed (it did work a few months ago)
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: TheGuru]
#249136 - 03/17/11 11:14 PM
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> > > I can't view the report (I only get an Apache test page)
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> > Guess you're still banned :-) (your dynamic ip range used to collide with an
> annoying
> > individual didn't it?)
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> yes but it was supposed to be fixed (it did work a few months ago)
Guru,
I'll contact you privately about this in PM.
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: gregf]
#249205 - 03/18/11 05:07 PM
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> Heh. A long time ago with that work there. I am guessing that was at the time when
> Atari System 1 hardware protection was just figured out back then while Neogeo fans
> were also jumping up and down with Neo Geo support was starting to be supported in
> MAME.
I read through all of the OverClocked "strips" a few weeks ago. It's hilarious what was considered important back then. (Also, I think they owe Aaron a pudding snack and/or their souls - the original offer strip explicitly said "in MAME", so FinalDave is ineligible).
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Re: Pleiades - Will the sound *ever* be fixed?
[Re: Master O]
#249317 - 03/19/11 07:54 AM
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Quote:
and guess what? When you ask any mamedevs to fix something,the chances of them working on it in your lifetime decrease by about 95%
How much effort did you put into getting your game emulated? How much did you spend to get Mame and your roms?
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