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anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent)
#245776 - 02/05/11 09:11 PM


i just fired up hot tub time machine while it was still downloading, and VLC plays a random video from another hard disk on my computer.

wtf? is this a VLC thing or what?



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245780 - 02/05/11 10:21 PM


> i just fired up hot tub time machine while it was still downloading, and VLC plays a
> random video from another hard disk on my computer.
>
> wtf? is this a VLC thing or what?

The only possible explanation I can think of.

1. BitTorrent allocates 4GB or whatever the file size is for the video you are downloading, and works on filling it from the torrent.
2. Previously, that was "blank space". But blank space isn't zeroes, it contains previous content that you deleted or moved (unless you purposely zero your free space.
3. The random video used to be located in the space where you are currently downloading the torrent.

And yes, that's pretty impossible too.

Otherwise, I got nothin'. *shrug*

[EDIT] does it show in the "recently opened" that it accessed that other drive?

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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: Stiletto]
#245783 - 02/05/11 11:36 PM


> > i just fired up hot tub time machine while it was still downloading, and VLC plays
> a
> > random video from another hard disk on my computer.
> >
> > wtf? is this a VLC thing or what?
>
> The only possible explanation I can think of.
>
> 1. BitTorrent allocates 4GB or whatever the file size is for the video you are
> downloading, and works on filling it from the torrent.
> 2. Previously, that was "blank space". But blank space isn't zeroes, it contains
> previous content that you deleted or moved (unless you purposely zero your free
> space.
> 3. The random video used to be located in the space where you are currently
> downloading the torrent.
>
> And yes, that's pretty impossible too.
>
> Otherwise, I got nothin'. *shrug*



> [EDIT] does it show in the "recently opened" that it accessed that other drive?

no, that was the first thing i checked. i keep thinking about this, and it's blowing my fucking mind. i have no clue how this is possible.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245790 - 02/06/11 01:46 AM


Wow, never had this issue. Then again I mostly let it complete atleast 70~80% of the video befre playing..



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245791 - 02/06/11 01:47 AM


I have, I think it was an mp3, and it played some other random song, nothing that I even had on my hard drive. So I figured maybe I had picked up some pieces of something that one the peers was also downloading. But when it did finish downloading, it worked fine, and was the correct song.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245793 - 02/06/11 01:55 AM


> i just fired up hot tub time machine while it was still downloading, and VLC plays a
> random video from another hard disk on my computer.
>
> wtf? is this a VLC thing or what?

I've seen the same thing here quite a few times.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245794 - 02/06/11 01:57 AM


> > > i just fired up hot tub time machine while it was still downloading, and VLC
> plays
> > a
> > > random video from another hard disk on my computer.
> > >
> > > wtf? is this a VLC thing or what?
> >
> > The only possible explanation I can think of.
> >
> > 1. BitTorrent allocates 4GB or whatever the file size is for the video you are
> > downloading, and works on filling it from the torrent.
> > 2. Previously, that was "blank space". But blank space isn't zeroes, it contains
> > previous content that you deleted or moved (unless you purposely zero your free
> > space.
> > 3. The random video used to be located in the space where you are currently
> > downloading the torrent.
> >
> > And yes, that's pretty impossible too.
> >
> > Otherwise, I got nothin'. *shrug*
>
>
> > [EDIT] does it show in the "recently opened" that it accessed that other drive?
>
> no, that was the first thing i checked. i keep thinking about this, and it's blowing
> my fucking mind. i have no clue how this is possible.

The random space scenario has plausibility. I'd take a proper amount of dumb luck, but it could happen.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: snake78]
#245797 - 02/06/11 02:41 AM


> I have, I think it was an mp3, and it played some other random song, nothing that I
> even had on my hard drive. So I figured maybe I had picked up some pieces of
> something that one the peers was also downloading. But when it did finish
> downloading, it worked fine, and was the correct song.


mine started playing a vacation video i took with my camera. i have zero clue how this is even possible.

i can only guess that there's some kind of metadata in the video concerning file location that gets botched and VLC fucks it up. it started playing my home video about halfway through and only a few seconds of it.

completely odd.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245798 - 02/06/11 03:36 AM


> mine started playing a vacation video i took with my camera. i have zero clue how
> this is even possible.

The torrent client pre-allocates blocks on your HDD but doesn't overwrite any data that used to be there until the new data arrives to replace it.

Edited by R. Belmont (02/06/11 03:36 AM)



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: R. Belmont]
#245801 - 02/06/11 03:48 AM


> > mine started playing a vacation video i took with my camera. i have zero clue how
> > this is even possible.
>
> The torrent client pre-allocates blocks on your HDD but doesn't overwrite any data
> that used to be there until the new data arrives to replace it.


so, the specific instance of the video that played (my home video) was one that i had deleted in windows?



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245802 - 02/06/11 03:49 AM


Post the vaca vid.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245803 - 02/06/11 03:50 AM


Blow your fucking mind.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245804 - 02/06/11 03:50 AM


Goddamn pirate.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245805 - 02/06/11 03:51 AM


Why did you delete the vaca vid after I requestered it to be postered.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245807 - 02/06/11 04:07 AM


> > > mine started playing a vacation video i took with my camera. i have zero clue how
> > > this is even possible.
> >
> > The torrent client pre-allocates blocks on your HDD but doesn't overwrite any data
> > that used to be there until the new data arrives to replace it.
>
>
> so, the specific instance of the video that played (my home video) was one that i had
> deleted in windows?

Yeah, or copied around, or something like that.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: Smitdogg]
#245822 - 02/06/11 06:14 AM


> Post the vaca vid.




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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: Smitdogg]
#245836 - 02/06/11 08:17 AM


> Why did you delete the vaca vid after I requestered it to be postered.

i didn't. i suspect i deleted a version of it long ago. i'm not uploading a 130mb video of my dogs on the beach. sorry. maybe if upload speeds were decent...



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: R. Belmont]
#245839 - 02/06/11 08:47 AM


> > > > mine started playing a vacation video i took with my camera. i have zero clue
> how
> > > > this is even possible.
> > >
> > > The torrent client pre-allocates blocks on your HDD but doesn't overwrite any
> data
> > > that used to be there until the new data arrives to replace it.
> >
> >
> > so, the specific instance of the video that played (my home video) was one that i
> had
> > deleted in windows?
>
> Yeah, or copied around, or something like that.

Ah, so I WAS on the right track.

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Edited by Stiletto (02/06/11 08:47 AM)



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245862 - 02/06/11 04:04 PM


Check out

http://www.ant.com/

It works on your browser, but you can snag youtube and other videos. :-/

& yeah, you can watch as it's downloading. But it will stop if... eh, nevermind. You pay for cable.



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Re: anybody ever tried to play a video that was still being downloaded (torrent) new [Re: jopezu]
#245864 - 02/06/11 04:43 PM


> > Why did you delete the vaca vid after I requestered it to be postered.
>
> i didn't. i suspect i deleted a version of it long ago. i'm not uploading a 130mb
> video of my dogs on the beach. sorry. maybe if upload speeds were decent...

So we're calling it "dogs on the beach" now? noted.

So hard to keep up on the latest euphemisms.


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