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Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
#396894 - 08/22/23 08:58 PM
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Anyone have suggestions for a USB Atari 2600 joystick? Is the Retrolink Classic the closest?
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: John IV]
#396895 - 08/22/23 09:13 PM
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: Roman]
#396896 - 08/22/23 10:36 PM
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Laugh, I didn't say I wanted to play A2600 games with the joystick. ;-)
Like the other thread here I've been playing Pacman (free range, no patterns) a lot lately and rage out when I get a misdirection w/ all my controllers. These joysticks seem like the quickest / cheapest way to get a 4-way joystick into the mix.
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: John IV]
#396899 - 08/23/23 07:04 AM
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> Laugh, I didn't say I wanted to play A2600 games with the joystick. ;-) > > Like the other thread here I've been playing Pacman (free range, no patterns) a lot > lately and rage out when I get a misdirection w/ all my controllers. These joysticks > seem like the quickest / cheapest way to get a 4-way joystick into the mix.
Why can't MAME simply disable the other inputs with a toggle in the UI so you have 4-way on a per-game or set basis that a user has full control over?
Would seem to make more sense then seeking out other hardware.
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: B2K24]
#396900 - 08/23/23 08:29 AM
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: B2K24]
#396904 - 08/23/23 04:53 PM
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> Why can't MAME simply disable the other inputs with a toggle in the UI so you have > 4-way on a per-game or set basis that a user has full control over? > > Would seem to make more sense then seeking out other hardware.
MAME does suppress diagonals for games that expect a four-way joystick. However, you’re still not going to get that snappy, tactile transition between horizontal and vertical if you don’t have a real four-way joystick. It just isn’t the same.
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#396905 - 08/23/23 06:34 PM
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> > Why can't MAME simply disable the other inputs with a toggle in the UI so you have > > 4-way on a per-game or set basis that a user has full control over? > > > > Would seem to make more sense then seeking out other hardware. > > MAME does suppress diagonals for games that expect a four-way joystick. However, > you’re still not going to get that snappy, tactile transition between horizontal and > vertical if you don’t have a real four-way joystick. It just isn’t the same.
I trust your word. ty for letting us know
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
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#396929 - 08/27/23 05:57 AM
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#396930 - 08/27/23 06:01 AM
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> MAME does suppress diagonals for games that expect a four-way joystick. However, > you’re still not going to get that snappy, tactile transition between horizontal and > vertical if you don’t have a real four-way joystick. It just isn’t the same.
Vas, does the -joymap I posted above work in addition to the built-in suppression you're talking about or is it redundant for four way games like pacman. Do I get anything out of the switch in this case?
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: John IV]
#396931 - 08/27/23 11:44 AM
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> Just to follow up on this. > Atari is going to be re-introducing a replica CX40, it's up for pre-sale: > https://atari.com/products/cx40-joystick > > In the meantime I opted for a 2600 II daptor: > http://2600-daptor.com/ > > and an OEM stick from eBAY. We'll see how the new replica stacks up to the original > in November.
AFAIK the Atari 2600 joystick is NOT a 4 way stick. A 4 way stick has either a restrictor inside or is built in such a way, that you can not press two directions (by accident or in any other way). The Atari 2600 is NOT built like that. This joystick can do diagonal directions, making it a 8-way joystick.
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: uman]
#396932 - 08/27/23 01:17 PM
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> AFAIK the Atari 2600 joystick is NOT a 4 way stick. A 4 way stick has either a > restrictor inside or is built in such a way, that you can not press two directions > (by accident or in any other way). The Atari 2600 is NOT built like that. This > joystick can do diagonal directions, making it a 8-way joystick.
Correct, the Atari 2600 was designed for and used 8-way joysticks.
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: John IV]
#396933 - 08/27/23 01:20 PM
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> Vas, does the -joymap I posted above work in addition to the built-in suppression > you're talking about or is it redundant for four way games like pacman. Do I get > anything out of the switch in this case?
-joymap only applies when converting analog joystick inputs for games that use digital joysticks. You aren’t actually using an analog joystick for games that used a 4-way digital joystick, are you?
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Re: Atari 2600 joystick USB suggestions
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#396934 - 08/27/23 06:49 PM
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> -joymap only applies when converting analog joystick inputs for games that use > digital joysticks. You aren’t actually using an analog joystick for games that used a > 4-way digital joystick, are you?
I sometimes attempt to use the left thumb stick on an Xbox Elite 2 to see how it does in pacman vs the dpad. I guess that would be a use case for the -joymap in this scenario.
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