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have a box full of original wild western and jungle king roms
and finally got around to checking if eproms were still good
and found 3 that were different and figured bad chips but I have 2 sets and verified both sets match
added the 3 in junglek and it runs fine
there are differences in the files compared to original
but I have no idea how to read code so it's all foreign to me
kn26 is kn46
haven't checked wild western yet
Identifying kn37.bin....
kn37.bin NO MATCH
Identifying kn38.bin....
kn38.bin NO MATCH
Identifying kn39.bin....
kn39.bin = j12.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn59-1.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn59-1.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn59-1.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn59-1.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn41.bin....
kn41.bin = kn41.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn42.bin....
kn42.bin = kn42.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn42.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn43.bin....
kn43.bin = j3.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn43.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn43.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn43.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn43.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn44.bin....
kn44.bin = kn44.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn44.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn45.bin....
kn45.bin = kn45.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn45.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn26.bin....
kn26.bin NO MATCH
Identifying kn27.bin....
kn27.bin = j7.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn47.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn47.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn47.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn47.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn47.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn48.bin....
kn48.bin = kn48.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn49.bin....
kn49.bin = kn49.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn50.bin....
kn50.bin = kn50.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn51.bin....
kn51.bin = j15.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn51.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn51.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn51.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn51.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn52.bin....
kn52.bin = j16.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn52.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn52.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn52.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn52.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn53.bin....
kn53.bin = j17.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn53.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn53.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn53.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn53.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn54.bin....
kn54.bin = kn54.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn55.bin....
kn55.bin = kn55.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn55.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn55.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn55.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn55.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn56.bin....
kn56.bin = j20.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn56.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn56.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn56.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn56.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
Identifying kn60.bin....
kn60.bin = j9.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
= kn60.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
= kn60.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
= kn60.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
= kn60.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
= kn60.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
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#395346 - 12/22/22 09:54 PM
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Re: jungle king roms not in mame
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#395351 - 12/23/22 05:17 PM
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https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/10730
I've submitted this here, it's mostly sound ROM changes. Note, you made things much more difficult by removing the already identified ROMs from your dumps.
> have a box full of original wild western and jungle king roms
> and finally got around to checking if eproms were still good
>
> and found 3 that were different and figured bad chips but I have 2 sets and verified
> both sets match
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> added the 3 in junglek and it runs fine
> there are differences in the files compared to original
> but I have no idea how to read code so it's all foreign to me
> kn26 is kn46
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> haven't checked wild western yet
>
> Identifying kn37.bin....
> kn37.bin NO MATCH
> Identifying kn38.bin....
> kn38.bin NO MATCH
> Identifying kn39.bin....
> kn39.bin = j12.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn59-1.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn59-1.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn59-1.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn59-1.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn41.bin....
> kn41.bin = kn41.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn42.bin....
> kn42.bin = kn42.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn42.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn43.bin....
> kn43.bin = j3.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn43.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn43.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn43.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn43.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn44.bin....
> kn44.bin = kn44.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn44.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn45.bin....
> kn45.bin = kn45.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn45.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn26.bin....
> kn26.bin NO MATCH
> Identifying kn27.bin....
> kn27.bin = j7.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn47.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn47.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn47.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn47.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn47.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn48.bin....
> kn48.bin = kn48.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn49.bin....
> kn49.bin = kn49.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn50.bin....
> kn50.bin = kn50.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn51.bin....
> kn51.bin = j15.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn51.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn51.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn51.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn51.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn52.bin....
> kn52.bin = j16.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn52.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn52.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn52.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn52.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn53.bin....
> kn53.bin = j17.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn53.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn53.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn53.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn53.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn54.bin....
> kn54.bin = kn54.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn55.bin....
> kn55.bin = kn55.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn55.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn55.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn55.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn55.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn56.bin....
> kn56.bin = j20.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn56.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn56.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn56.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn56.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
> Identifying kn60.bin....
> kn60.bin = j9.bin jungleby Jungle Boy (bootleg)
> = kn60.bin jungleh Jungle Hunt (US)
> = kn60.bin junglehbr Jungle Hunt (Brazil)
> = kn60.bin junglek Jungle King (Japan)
> = kn60.bin junglekas Jungle King (alternate sound)
> = kn60.bin junglekj2 Jungle King (Japan, earlier)
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Re: jungle king roms not in mame
[Re: Haze]
#395360 - 12/24/22 09:10 AM
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well all the rest matched Japan, earlier set
there were 4 I think that are only in the earlier set
so I just had to rename 1 of them and add all 3 to that set
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Re: jungle king roms not in mame
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#395393 - 12/27/22 09:29 PM
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Another update of this in pull request queu to eventually be supported. Depending how things go, this
might be supported in next future release if not this release.
new working clones
Jungle King (Japan, earlier, alt) [CWorks]
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/10730
Thanks for the additions since it might help other pcb owners in case roms need to be replaced.
>well all the rest matched Japan, earlier set
>there were 4 I think that are only in the earlier set
>so I just had to rename 1 of them and add all 3 to that set
I can see why sending in all roms might help because in past
donations a rom or two or a prom might be different on a particular pcb even if it is recognized
as already supported in MAME source. I don’t remember what games, but there were a couple unique cases where another same particular pcb had to be found and all the roms dumped to be certain the specific game version was emulated properly.
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Re: jungle king roms not in mame
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#395397 - 12/28/22 01:53 PM
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> Another update of this in pull request queu to eventually be supported. Depending
> how things go, this
> might be supported in next future release if not this release.
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> new working clones
> Jungle King (Japan, earlier, alt) [CWorks]
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> https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/10730
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> Thanks for the additions since it might help other pcb owners in case roms need to
> be replaced.
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> > well all the rest matched Japan, earlier set
> > there were 4 I think that are only in the earlier set
> > so I just had to rename 1 of them and add all 3 to that set
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> I can see why sending in all roms might help because in past
> donations a rom or two or a prom might be different on a particular pcb even if it
> is recognized
> as already supported in MAME source. I don’t remember what games, but there were a
> couple unique cases where another same particular pcb had to be found and all the
> roms dumped to be certain the specific game version was emulated properly.
sending the complete dump helps because it reduces the chances of accidentally using a ROM from an incorrect set when adding it.
sending a partial dump meant having to manually check every line of the -romident output that was pasted to make sure I was adding the correct ROMs for the files that weren't included - this is more time consuming.
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finally dumped the wild western roms
and got 4 that don't match and 1 rom is in wild western set 1 only
ww02d.bin NO MATCH
ww4d.bin NO MATCH
ww5d.bin NO MATCH
ww10.bin NO MATCH
added all the files this time and named them as written on the chips so a few need to be renamed to test it out
this dump just keeps resetting and has garbage at top of screen
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and here's the files
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Re: wild western dump has 4 unknowns
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#395451 - 01/01/23 02:40 AM
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>finally dumped the wild western roms
>and got 4 that don't match and 1 rom is in wild western 1 only
>added all the files this time and named them as written on the chips so a few need to be renamed to test it out
>this dump just keeps resetting and has garbage at top of screen
Thanks again for this work involved. It will be interesting to see if it is a regional version or maybe a bug fix version. Bummer that Taito probably didn’t have some coinop newsletter updates like Atari used to publish back in the days.
I am guessing Haze will have a new pull request for this within a few days which will appear on GitHub site later.
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I just took a dump of a different set and no match of those 4 from I think I have five or six sets all same name and labels
the first set i checked I think 4 of the roms were bad
the rest match the 4 or 5 other sets
so still have 2 different roms
ww02d-a.bin NO MATCH
ww5d-a.bin NO MATCH
garbage is gone but still crashes
the 4 roms did verify with eproms they came from but not the other sets so I think these were no good maybe? 
had these chips for about 10 years now just sitting in a box
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Re: wild western dump has 4 unknowns
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#395458 - 01/02/23 12:02 PM
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ww5d appears to have started erasing itself, the first 8-16 bytes every 0x100 are all 0xff. that's definitely bad.
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Re: wild western dump has 4 unknowns
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#395463 - 01/03/23 04:52 AM
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> ww5d appears to have started erasing itself,
> the first 8-16 bytes every 0x100 are all 0xff. that's definitely bad.
Aww..bummer.
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Re: wild western dump has 4 unknowns
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#395481 - 01/04/23 07:19 AM
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> I just took a dump
Is THAT what that smell is?? GOSH DAMN SON!!!
Sorry, could not resist.
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