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Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :(
#391268 - 07/10/21 08:33 AM Attachment: Screenshot (446).png 116 KB (0 downloads)


I just got this computer last year. I don't know what to do. I felt like Microsoft is trying to get us to buy a whole new computer just to run Windows 11. So far this computer doesn't have that TPM chip.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-if-your-pc-has-trusted-platform-module-tpm

Now if most people doesn't have the chip then they lost a shit load of money on selling the Windows 11.

Unless they are plaining on adding a program later that does the same thing as the chip does. Only way save their Windows 11 sales. Microsoft should be worry about the people selling the bootlegged TPM chips.

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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dullaron]
#391269 - 07/10/21 11:06 AM


> I just got this computer last year. I don't know what to do. I felt like Microsoft is
> trying to get us to buy a whole new computer just to run Windows 11. So far this
> computer doesn't have that TPM chip.
>
The buzzwords these days is of recycling and reuse, rather than throwing things away even though they still work. So of course Microsoft wants everyone to throw away all the old computers and buy ones that happen to suit their particular operating system. Millions upon millions of perfectly good computers choking up the worlds rubbish dumps. And given the current shortage of processors, hard drives and other parts, where will all these new computers come from? China?

And of course windows 11 doesn't even have a 32-bit version.

Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves. But business is business, especially in America.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dullaron]
#391273 - 07/10/21 02:05 PM


Its entirely possible your system has the functionality but its turned off in the BIOS or something. Most recent-ish CPUs will have a TPM built into the chip.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dullaron]
#391278 - 07/10/21 10:15 PM


> I just got this computer last year. I don't know what to do. I felt like Microsoft is
> trying to get us to buy a whole new computer just to run Windows 11. So far this
> computer doesn't have that TPM chip.

TPM is the Brazilian abbreviation of PMS.

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I got it enabled. I just had to find a video. :) new [Re: Dullaron]
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Now I can use Windows 11. I didn't understand before. Now I know.

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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: jonwil]
#391283 - 07/10/21 11:55 PM


> Its entirely possible your system has the functionality but its turned off in the
> BIOS or something. Most recent-ish CPUs will have a TPM built into the chip.

Thanks for having me to do search for it.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Robbbert]
#391286 - 07/11/21 02:44 AM


Are the newer releases of MAME all 64 bit like I read many months ago? This is the primary reason why I'm on version .201 and am unable to play any new games released in that time period till now.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dreamstate]
#391287 - 07/11/21 02:59 AM


> Are the newer releases of MAME all 64 bit like I read many months ago? This is the
> primary reason why I'm on version .201 and am unable to play any new games released
> in that time period till now.

yes.

we've had 64-bit CPUs for what, 20 years?

there's no real reason to be on a 32-bit OS unless you're in a business environment and need 16-bit apps which only run on 32-bit.

while the TPM requirement makes no sense at all (especially considering how hard Microsoft pushed to get everybody on Win10) the 64-bit requirement makes perfect sense; I doubt there are any machines out there right now that would run 32-bit better than 64-bit, it's free performance and far fewer headaches in terms of memory limits.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Robbbert]
#391288 - 07/11/21 05:18 AM


> The buzzwords these days is of recycling and reuse, rather than throwing things away
> even though they still work. So of course Microsoft wants everyone to throw away all
> the old computers and buy ones that happen to suit their particular operating system.

The trouble is Microsoft has to appease their biggest customers – the PC vendors (they buy OEM licenses to bundle Windows). The PC vendors made no secret of their unhappiness when the minimum system requirements didn’t change from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Without increased system requirements, there was a lot less incentive for people to buy new PCs, so they lost out on their cut of the upgrade cycle. The TPM requirement drops support for a lot of machines older than about four years, which will appease the PC vendors.

Plenty of people at Microsoft didn’t want to release Windows 10 for 32-bit x86 CPUs either, but at the time there were relatively recent Atom/Pentium CPUs without 64-bit capability. They’ve decided now that it’s not worth maintaining the kernel code to support 32-bit x86 any more. This also lets them assume SSE2 is a baseline feature, etc. It simplifies a lot of things.

As far as I can tell, the only actual feature that depends on the TPM being present is “Windows Hello” biometric login (this is also the source of the requirements for cameras on notebook/tablet PCs for Windows 11). I wouldn’t really consider this to be an essential feature, they could’ve easily made it optional, and only enabled it if suitable hardware is present. Requiring it is really just a move to appease the PC vendors for a few more years.



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Why my hard drives turn off with the Secure Boot enabled? new [Re: Dullaron]
#391299 - 07/11/21 08:29 PM Attachment: IMG_20210711_131647317.jpg 516 KB (0 downloads)


First screen shot. CSM Support on and Secure Boot disabled.

Hard drives is showing on the motherboard with the Secure Boot enabled. But not turn on.

I reset it and then turn the CSM Support and TPM chip back on. Left it this way.

Secure Boot is being stupid.

I don't know. Hoping Microsoft do something about this. Like remove the Secure Boot from their requirement list. Secure Boot won't work right for some reason. Maybe it only for the laptop only???

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I got it to work now. Here is a video that I watched. On how to get it to converted. new [Re: Dullaron]
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Do not delete the extra partition. Part of your Windows.

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Re: I got it to work now. Here is a video that I watched. On how to get it to converted. new [Re: Dullaron]
#391304 - 07/12/21 02:02 AM


I won't be turning on TPM until I'm ready to install the full release version.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dreamstate]
#391305 - 07/12/21 04:51 AM


> Are the newer releases of MAME all 64 bit like I read many months ago? This is the
> primary reason why I'm on version .201 and am unable to play any new games released
> in that time period till now.

That's true.

However, since MAME is open source, that hasn't stopped some people who are external to the project from figuring out how to compile 32-bit builds still. You can usually find these third-party builds offered at emulation enthusiast websites such as https://www.emu-france.com whenever there is a new release of MAME.

MAMEdev is simply under no obligation to support those people using those 32-bit builds, though, especially if any problem they discover cannot be duplicated in the official 64-bit release.

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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Haze]
#391312 - 07/13/21 07:55 AM


> > Are the newer releases of MAME all 64 bit like I read many months ago? This is the
> > primary reason why I'm on version .201 and am unable to play any new games released
> > in that time period till now.
>
> yes.
>
> we've had 64-bit CPUs for what, 20 years?
>
> there's no real reason to be on a 32-bit OS unless you're in a business environment
> and need 16-bit apps which only run on 32-bit.
>
> while the TPM requirement makes no sense at all (especially considering how hard
> Microsoft pushed to get everybody on Win10) the 64-bit requirement makes perfect
> sense; I doubt there are any machines out there right now that would run 32-bit
> better than 64-bit, it's free performance and far fewer headaches in terms of memory
> limits.

I believe Microsoft gonna fuck up someday. Apple gonna laugh at them. But then again nobody likes Apple over price stuff. Gonna push people toward to Linux and Android. lol



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dreamstate]
#391316 - 07/15/21 01:19 PM


> Are the newer releases of MAME all 64 bit like I read many months ago? This is the
> primary reason why I'm on version .201 and am unable to play any new games released
> in that time period till now.

I run MAME 0.225 on a Sempron 140 with Windows XP 32-bit (which is a terrible combo given that the CPU is 64-bit and the PC should have Linux on it instead, but I also have a few very old programs that don't work properly on anything later; whether or not they work in Wine is another story). Granted, XP is completely unsupported and MAME has to be compiled from the source code, but it is/was still possible long after 0.201.



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: Dullaron]
#391317 - 07/15/21 02:22 PM


My system doesn't seem to be able to run Windows 11.
I got the TPM enabled in the bios and the windows TPM thing says that its identified but no matter what options I fiddle with in the BIOS of my ASUS motherboard, I can't get the secure boot stuff working to the point that Windows says "Secure Boot Enabled" in whatever thing it uses to identify that. I know I got the right support since I bought the board in January of 2020 and its got a Core i5-9400F in there. (so it absolutely should support secure boot).



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Re: Look like my computer doesn't support Windows 11. :( new [Re: jonwil]
#391319 - 07/15/21 10:26 PM


> My system doesn't seem to be able to run Windows 11.
> I got the TPM enabled in the bios and the windows TPM thing says that its identified
> but no matter what options I fiddle with in the BIOS of my ASUS motherboard, I can't
> get the secure boot stuff working to the point that Windows says "Secure Boot
> Enabled" in whatever thing it uses to identify that. I know I got the right support
> since I bought the board in January of 2020 and its got a Core i5-9400F in there. (so
> it absolutely should support secure boot).

You have to convert your Windows 10 to GPT. I posted a video on how. Require Windows 10 Advance Startup to do it. Other wise can't run Windows 11. Stay away from the Windows 11 iso. Just join the Windows 11 beta. There some websites tell you how to enable the option on the Windows 10. Be best to wait until they release the official stable Windows 11 download.

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