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Alex7
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netlist audio games question
#388427 - 11/03/20 02:58 AM


i was checking out some games got added with netlist audio
one of them is dynamite dux this one previously didn't have netlist i used to play a lot of dynamite dux and there was no problems no lag but since got netlist added it reaches 70 75 % speed only and i'ts very laggy the same happens with tank battlation

the question is

do you need a good CPU to play full speed on games with netlist audio? i have a 2.33 core2duo i know it's crap but that is the point of the question.



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Re: netlist audio games question new [Re: Alex7]
#388428 - 11/03/20 03:11 AM


Yes, you'll need a beefy machine to handle many of the netlist games.

These are the two games you reference on my oc 4.5Ghz 6700K

c:\O\Games\MAME>mame ddux -bench 90
Average speed: 707.47% (89 seconds)

c:\O\Games\MAME>mame tankbatt -bench 90
Average speed: 400.93% (89 seconds)

I've also added spacfury to the bench run so you can monitor some newer netlist games progress.

http://www.mameui.info/Bench.htm



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Re: netlist audio games question new [Re: Alex7]
#388430 - 11/03/20 04:03 AM


>i was checking out some games got added with netlist audio
>one of them is dynamite dux this one previously didn't have netlist i used to play a lot of
>dynamite dux and there was no problems no lag but since got netlist added it reaches
> 70 75% speed only and it's very laggy


For those curious about the hardware update if missed earlier..

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segas16b: Added analog filters. [Couriersud]
2020-01-25

https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/ea1897f605bd2f335df88842506c24581ce5b118

Analog filters added to systems with YM2151 and UPD7759.
Reviewers can use USE_NL define to produce unfiltered sound.
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> the same happens with tank battalion

It is now [no more external sample audio recordings] accurate with info derived from either the technical paperwork or from the pcb itself.

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https://github.com/mamedev/mame/commit/48be14bade6c757d4a98400ee6016b5719bffd2a

2020-08-02
-tankbatt: Added netlist audio. [Ryan Holtz]
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Edited by gregf (11/03/20 11:47 AM)



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Re: netlist audio games question new [Re: John IV]
#388447 - 11/04/20 05:59 AM


To provide some more data points, here's the performance on my aging 3.33GHz Xeon X5680 based machine running Linux:

$ mame64 ddux -bench 90
Average speed: 500.85% (89 seconds)
$ mame64 tankbatt -bench 90
Average speed: 226.52% (89 seconds)

And also my even older 3.16GHz Core 2 Duo E8500 based machine running Windows 7:

C:\Program Files\MAME>mame64 ddux -bench 90
Average speed: 467.09% (89 seconds)
C:\Program Files\MAME>mame64 tankbatt -bench 90
Average speed: 168.37% (89 seconds)

For what it's worth, this E8500 is almost certainly a drop-in replacement for the OP's CPU, and they go for about $10 on eBay. An 3.33GHz E8600 would be even better for maybe $20.


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