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Attn: Mr. Do or Vas Crabb = invaddlx question
#388214 - 10/18/20 03:43 AM
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So I'm alphabetically up to the I's and I've hit my first snag. I've set up my invaddlx file with the following iterations, in order:
1. The backdrops.
2. The game screen using the "add" blend.
3. The overlay using the "multiply" blend.
4. The bezel.
Problem is, the overlay is affecting the backdrops as well as the game screen with this setup. Is this a result of the overlay being too complex (gradient) for the new setup or is there a syntax/method I'm missing? I haven't run into this with any of the other games with backdrops and overlays thus far.
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> So I'm alphabetically up to the I's and I've hit my first snag. I've set up my
> invaddlx file with the following iterations, in order:
> 1. The backdrops.
> 2. The game screen using the "add" blend.
> 3. The overlay using the "multiply" blend.
> 4. The bezel.
> Problem is, the overlay is affecting the backdrops as well as the game screen with
> this setup. Is this a result of the overlay being too complex (gradient) for the new
> setup or is there a syntax/method I'm missing? I haven't run into this with any of
> the other games with backdrops and overlays thus far.
See attached.
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Re: Attn: Mr. Do or Vas Crabb = invaddlx question
[Re: Nightvoice]
#388218 - 10/18/20 10:08 AM
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> So I'm alphabetically up to the I's and I've hit my first snag. I've set up my
> invaddlx file with the following iterations, in order:
> 1. The backdrops.
> 2. The game screen using the "add" blend.
> 3. The overlay using the "multiply" blend.
> 4. The bezel.
> Problem is, the overlay is affecting the backdrops as well as the game screen with
> this setup. Is this a result of the overlay being too complex (gradient) for the new
> setup or is there a syntax/method I'm missing? I haven't run into this with any of
> the other games with backdrops and overlays thus far.
See my post on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MAME/comments/j...so_far/g7ujlrr/
In “Space Invaders” mode, the draw order was screens, overlays (multiply), backdrop (add), bezels, control panels, marquees. If you want more than one backdrop element, you need to use pre-matted bitmaps.
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Re: Attn: Mr. Do or Vas Crabb = invaddlx question
[Re: Mr. Do]
#388226 - 10/18/20 06:37 PM
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Re: Attn: Mr. Do or Vas Crabb = invaddlx question
[Re: Nightvoice]
#388232 - 10/19/20 01:23 AM
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> Hugely helpful. I didn't see anything in the documentation about Space Invaders mode,
> but it obviously works with invaders and invaddlx. It's really freaky to have to
> iterate things in reverse order, but if it works, it works. Thanks to you both!
See this is one of the things that was really counter-intuitive about the old system. It magically changed behaviour depending on the contents of the view. Adding or removing overlay or backdrop items could change the order and blending modes. You had to actually read the code to work out what it was going to do. The new system requires you to be explicit about how you want stuff drawn, but it does exactly what you tell it to do.
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