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Core Artwork Settings
#383335 - 08/17/19 09:22 AM


Has this changed with Mame 0.212?

Running mame64.exe - cc only creates the following entries in mame.ini:

# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop 0
fallback_artwork
override_artwork

#

Whereas these are my settings which have no effect when changed:

# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop 0
use_backdrops 0
use_overlays 1
use_bezels 0
use_cpanels 0
use_marquees 1

#

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Galaxian]
#383336 - 08/17/19 10:53 AM


> Has this changed with Mame 0.212?

Yes... you can read more here:

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=383195


> Running mame64.exe - cc only creates the following entries in mame.ini:
>
> # CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
> #
> artwork_crop 0
> fallback_artwork
> override_artwork
>
> #
>
> Whereas these are my settings which have no effect when changed:
>
> # CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
> #
> artwork_crop 0
> use_backdrops 0
> use_overlays 1
> use_bezels 0
> use_cpanels 0
> use_marquees 1
>
> #
>
> Thanks in advance.




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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Mr. Do]
#383337 - 08/17/19 11:19 AM


Ah that explains it then. It was doing my head in.

What's the ETA for the new artwork system?

Apologies I should have looked in the appropriate forum.

Edited by Galaxian (08/17/19 11:21 AM)



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Galaxian]
#383343 - 08/17/19 08:27 PM


> Ah that explains it then. It was doing my head in.
>
> What's the ETA for the new artwork system?
>
> Apologies I should have looked in the appropriate forum.

No apology necessary... it's still a core MAME thing, so posting here is fine.

I've forwarded off suggestions I've had, but haven't heard anything back yet.




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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Mr. Do]
#383381 - 08/20/19 08:03 PM


Are you in touch with cuavas? I think he's working on it.



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: hap]
#383383 - 08/21/19 06:15 AM


> Are you in touch with cuavas? I think he's working on it.

Not yet... after some help from Tafoid, I installed IRC for the first time in my life (yeah, really) and signed up some days ago.

But works been super busy... and I haven't really had time to jump on yet.

Very cool to hear that he's looking at it...




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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Mr. Do]
#383384 - 08/21/19 02:52 PM


My apologies up front if I am missing something really obvious here, but...

Is it still possible to turn off *all* of the artwork in 0212 ? (not just individual on/off settings, but all of it). I couldn't find a clear candidate for it in my new mame.ini. If not, are there currently plans to make that option available in the future ?

-- EDIT --

Sort of answering my own post: just don't include the artwork you don't want displayed like bezels/cpanels/marquees/etc in your artwork folder. And leave the other stuff (like 'effect') you do want displayed. Duh. Still, having an easy on/off option would be nice.

Edited by mhoes (08/21/19 03:17 PM)



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: mhoes]
#383385 - 08/21/19 03:44 PM


If you want to disable all artwork, select Screen 0 from the video menu?



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: hydef]
#383386 - 08/21/19 03:56 PM


> If you want to disable all artwork, select Screen 0 from the video menu?

Thanks for the effort, but I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say here. I only have 1 screen/monitor, and aren't these options for selecting multiple screens/monitors ?

Also, as I see things now, mame might mean more with *all* 'artwork' than I initially thought: although I do not want the bezels/cpanels/marquees/etc, I do want the 'effect' option to have artificial scanlines via a 'scanlines0x4_j4.png' file that lives in my artwork folder.



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: mhoes]
#383391 - 08/22/19 02:13 AM


> > If you want to disable all artwork, select Screen 0 from the video menu?
>
> Thanks for the effort, but I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say
> here. I only have 1 screen/monitor, and aren't these options for selecting multiple
> screens/monitors ?
>
> Also, as I see things now, mame might mean more with *all* 'artwork' than I initially
> thought: although I do not want the bezels/cpanels/marquees/etc, I do want the
> 'effect' option to have artificial scanlines via a 'scanlines0x4_j4.png' file that
> lives in my artwork folder.

Actually, the option in your mame.ini you want to change is "-view".

Default for this is "auto," which means MAME will pick the first available view from whichever of these things exists in your setup:

External clone artwork
Internal clone layout
External parent artwork
Internal parent layout
Special layout as defined in src/emu/layout
Horizont/Vertical layout

(Got that mostly right, I think).

The last option in the list above, most every game has, and the first view in that will begin with "Standard".

So if you have in your name.ini:

-view Standard

It will go straight to the default view for most games, as if you had no artwork.

tl;dr ... Just read the last three sentences. The rest is background, so you know how it works.




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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: mhoes]
#383392 - 08/22/19 02:18 AM


If you play a game for which you have external artwork in the \artwork directory, and you then go into the in-game tab menu to the video options there is the choice to select the art option at the top or to select screen 0 standard. Screen 0 standard is the regular game with no applied external art.

Note it will actually continue to use the effects *.pngs you're talking about in the \artwork directory if you choose screen 0 standard. Some folks like those old effects as they aren't impacted by the scaled resolution of the game like things are in the later HLSL filters.

Or, as you mentioned you can remove all the zipped artwork from the \artwork directory and achieve the same effect.

[Update] Mr. Do's method is a good option too, though you may need to set the line in mame.ini to:

view Screen 0 Standard
or
view0 Screen 0 Standard

Edited by John IV (08/22/19 03:20 AM)



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: John IV]
#383395 - 08/22/19 04:35 PM


> Some folks like those old effects
That would include me.


> [Update] Mr. Do's method is a good option too, though you may need to set the line in
> mame.ini to:
>
> view Screen 0 Standard
>

Thanks, that works.



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Re: Core Artwork Settings new [Re: Mr. Do]
#383396 - 08/22/19 04:38 PM


>
> So if you have in your name.ini:
>
> -view Standard
>

Putting this in mame.ini worked:

view Screen 0 Standard


> tl;dr ... Just read the last three sentences. The rest is background, so you know how it works.

Thanks for taking the time to explain things, I like that kind of information.


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