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Sthiryu
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Changes in Game & Watch video options?
#382146 - 04/26/19 04:41 PM


Hi, I noticed the video options in G&W Zelda are different to the other G&W titles. There are 2 new view options: Backdrop and Unit only instead of Handheld artwork. This means that if you want to hide the white backdrop you need to select the unit only view, instead of setting the Backdrop option to disabled.

Will that change be applied to the other G&W games or it's simply a mistake?

Edited by Sthiryu (04/26/19 04:42 PM)



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: Sthiryu]
#382149 - 04/26/19 06:01 PM


Hello, I made those.

It's intentional but bear with me while I try and explain why I did that.

The backdrop and unit elements used to be individual layers and I would tell MAME to overlay them and scale them. That meant you could turn off the background and be left with the unit. But with some of the designs, I noticed the scaler didn't do a perfect job and rounded corners or diagonals would look a little messy, so I merged them and gave you a separate option for unit only. I also thought that would be easier to use.

So I think all of the Gold Series and New Wide Screen (those shapes anyway) still have that option because they seemed unaffected and I think nearly everything else was merged to give a little better quality. Get them from my links if you want the latest ones.



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: hydef]
#382151 - 04/26/19 08:25 PM


Thanks, I'll download then



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: hydef]
#382170 - 04/27/19 07:39 AM


Speaking of the backdrop, wouldn't it be possible for the artwork to just assign a color background instead of always having a fixed-size background image?

It just feels a bit odd that the default settings display vertical Game & Watch games like this, in non-wide screens:


(I know the display options can easily be changed from the UI, but still)



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: ICEknight]
#382174 - 04/27/19 01:46 PM


You know, I didn't really think of anyone that was using a cab or 4:3.

If anyone could chime in and tell me the easiest way to do this, I'll consider it. Maybe I could duplicate the current Backdrop view, name the first one of them 4:3 Backdrop or something, use all of the same coordinates as before and just use a bounds tag to crop everything to 1440×1080? Would that work? I don't have a 4:3 monitor to test.



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: hydef]
#382178 - 04/27/19 03:27 PM


Sounds like it would be complicated, but luckily that's really simple to solve.

see 1 extra line for global layout bounds (line 16), using your gnw_zelda artwork as example:

https://pastebin.com/ciZr7t7U

In windowed mode, it will auto crop the view. In fullscreen mode MAME will auto center it, should look ok now with 4:3, 5:4, 16:9, 16:10.



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: hap]
#382180 - 04/27/19 03:40 PM


Awesome, thank you! =D




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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: ICEknight]
#382181 - 04/27/19 03:50 PM


Nice, I hoped that would work. I'll update them all later.

Actually, I might just let people add it themselves and add a readme.



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: hydef]
#382300 - 05/03/19 10:21 PM


I've seen you added the global layout bounds line in a readme file.

As far as I understand, I believe it could be the default: the added line should not break 16:9, and it would be useful for other aspect ratios (for sure it works on my 16:10 display).



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Re: Changes in Game & Watch video options? new [Re: Mazinger]
#382301 - 05/03/19 11:47 PM


Edit: Oh, I get it now. So it doesn't actually break 16:9.. Right.. I hadn't actually tested it because I didn't want to crop the screen myself. Well this is good. I'll include it. Just I think some games you're going to find cropped on 4:3 like Life Boat unless I rework them a little.



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