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Marcio
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FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone)
#358804 - 09/19/16 05:58 PM Attachment: Fantastic real colors.jpg 46 KB (0 downloads)


I played FANTASTIC (Galaga clone) when I was young, it was one of the my favorite game in 80´s.
I was very happy when I could play Fantastic in Mame.

I need say something about GREEN color in Fantastic, Where is the GREEN color? there is no GREEN COLOR in emulated Fantastic.

In the original arcade game there are LIGHT GREEN stars and there are enemys GREEN (light green).

The enemys come in LIGHT GREEN and when receive first shot, becomes BLUE.
I have a original picture from de arcade game if you want.

I would like to know if the developers know this missing color, but in driver information says COLOR:GOOD.. but it is not true.

video of original colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QULS1VnUeiQ

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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Marcio]
#358805 - 09/19/16 06:04 PM


> I played FANTASTIC (Galaga clone) when I was young, it was one of the my favorite
> game in 80´s.
> I was very happy when I could play Fantastic in Mame.
>
> I need say something about GREEN color in Fantastic, Where is the GREEN color? there
> is no GREEN COLOR in emulated Fantastic.
>
> In the original arcade game there are LIGHT GREEN stars and there are enemys GREEN
> (light green).
>
> The enemys come in LIGHT GREEN and when receive first shot, becomes BLUE.
> I have a original picture from de arcade game if you want.
>
> I would like to know if the developers know this missing color, but in driver
> information says COLOR:GOOD.. but it is not true.

from what I can tell the PROM dump we have doesn't allow for that colour scheme..

that said I'm not entirely sure it's good, the dumper seemed to struggle, eg. another was dumped for the brazlian 'Kong' game which I couldn't hook up to provide any reasonable colours at all.



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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Haze]
#358829 - 09/20/16 04:57 AM


> > I played FANTASTIC (Galaga clone) when I was young, it was one of the my favorite
> > game in 80´s.
> > I was very happy when I could play Fantastic in Mame.
> >
> > I need say something about GREEN color in Fantastic, Where is the GREEN color? there
> > is no GREEN COLOR in emulated Fantastic.
> >
> > In the original arcade game there are LIGHT GREEN stars and there are enemys GREEN
> > (light green).
> >
> > The enemys come in LIGHT GREEN and when receive first shot, becomes BLUE.
> > I have a original picture from de arcade game if you want.
> >
> > I would like to know if the developers know this missing color, but in driver
> > information says COLOR:GOOD.. but it is not true.
>
> from what I can tell the PROM dump we have doesn't allow for that colour scheme..
>
> that said I'm not entirely sure it's good, the dumper seemed to struggle, eg. another
> was dumped for the brazlian 'Kong' game which I couldn't hook up to provide any
> reasonable colours at all.

It's also possible it does something whacky with resistor weights a la Laser Batte/Cat and Mouse rather than the assumed R2R ladder. Do we have a photo/schematic of the actual video output section?



Marcio
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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Vas Crabb]
#358839 - 09/20/16 02:17 PM Attachment: pcb_fantastic.jpg 1516 KB (1 downloads)


I can try contact with one of owners of the old fantastic board to see more details..
I will try..

Video of original colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QULS1VnUeiQ


video of original pcb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq3QcZomNq0

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Marcio
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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Marcio]
#358932 - 09/23/16 02:31 PM


trying to make contact with the owners of this PCB but without success.



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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Marcio]
#358960 - 09/24/16 10:01 PM


the colors in this video are wrong, this looks like a hacked/modified fantastic. in the original the capture colors and the captured ship were in different colors.



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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: lionelrit]
#358982 - 09/25/16 04:18 PM


The only thing I found wrong in the video was the color of captured ship, (the correct color is red), but the other colors are correct. (light green enemies, light green stars, etc..)

I played the original Fantastic Arcade in 80´s and the colors are correct except the captured ship.
This was my favorite arcade game when I was young.



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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: Marcio]
#359216 - 10/01/16 08:15 PM


I played it in the 80s, 90s and until 1998 the machine was still here in the city.



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Re: FANTASTIC (Brazilian galaga clone) new [Re: lionelrit]
#368782 - 08/16/17 05:40 PM


OK, I understand, but this is a Brazilian version, diferent hardware, not the same Namco´s Galaga.
This is a galaga clone created on Galaxian hardware by Taito Brazil.
Namco´s Galaga have diferent colors from Taito´s Galaga.

This is a diferent game and only exists in Brazil.


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