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Junk science, false narratives, and video games
#342316 - 07/09/15 11:06 PM


Boys really don't like boobs, honest!

Original bullshit article:
https://archive.is/o/F2iRv/http://time.com/3948744/video-games-kate-upton-game-of-war-comic-con/

Destructoid concurs:
https://archive.is/F2iRv



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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: mike20599]
#342319 - 07/10/15 02:36 AM


> Boys really don't like boobs, honest!
>
> Original bullshit article:
> https://archive.is/o/F2iRv/http://time.com/3948744/video-games-kate-upton-game-of-war-comic-con/


Quote:


70% of girls said it doesn’t matter and 78% of boys said it doesn’t matter. Interestingly, boys care less about playing as a male character as they age and girls care more about playing as a female one.



This is a snapshot of varying ages at the current time, NOT an extended study of people as they age. These things are changing right now, so surveying different age groups does not give "aging" information.


Quote:


55% of boys who identify as gamers think there should be more female heroes in games, and 57% believe that female characters are too often treated as sex objects.



This ad is the same thing that has been used to sell crap games as far back as you care to look, but now it's a video rather than a print ad. It still has no relevance to the actual game. Beyond the normal annoyance of having your screen hijacked as you try to get to the site you're looking for, that irrelevance is at issue. They're using sex to sell war, and not even emotionally intense war, but dry, if very simplified, battles. Were this a game where we played as a character portrayed by Ms. Upton in battles that looked like those in the ads, they'd be fine (and the game would be... better selling).

>
> Destructoid concurs:
> https://archive.is/F2iRv

They aren't adding anything with that piece, it seems just to repeat the relevant content of the short article that they then link to. Well, other than the first paragraph.



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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: TriggerFin]
#342320 - 07/10/15 03:01 AM


Yeah when I see tits in the ad, there damn well better be tits in the game.

> This ad is the same thing that has been used to sell crap games as far back as you
> care to look, but now it's a video rather than a print ad. It still has no relevance
> to the actual game. Beyond the normal annoyance of having your screen hijacked as you
> try to get to the site you're looking for, that irrelevance is at issue. They're
> using sex to sell war, and not even emotionally intense war, but dry, if very
> simplified, battles. Were this a game where we played as a character portrayed by Ms.
> Upton in battles that looked like those in the ads, they'd be fine (and the game
> would be... better selling).
>
> >
> > Destructoid concurs:
> > https://archive.is/F2iRv
>
> They aren't adding anything with that piece, it seems just to repeat the relevant
> content of the short article that they then link to. Well, other than the first
> paragraph.



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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: mike20599]
#342326 - 07/10/15 12:15 PM


> Yeah when I see tits in the ad, there damn well better be tits in the game.

Agreed.

Be telling my son. "Look those son. Be a man when you grow up. Get those pussies."



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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: Dullaron]
#342328 - 07/10/15 01:42 PM


> Be telling my son. "Look those son. Be a man when you grow up. Get those pussies."

That's a frightening thought.



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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: Dullaron]
#342331 - 07/10/15 04:28 PM


> > Yeah when I see tits in the ad, there damn well better be tits in the game.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Be telling my son. "Look those son. Be a man when you grow up. Get those pussies."


Yeah. Then the next thing you know your son will be telling you this...




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Re: Junk science, false narratives, and video games new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#342379 - 07/12/15 01:46 AM


> > Be telling my son. "Look those son. Be a man when you grow up. Get those pussies."
>
> That's a frightening thought.

+1



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Update: The authors admit it was junk science new [Re: mike20599]
#342418 - 07/13/15 03:42 AM


Some sleuths on Reddit discovered that this "study" was just an Internet survey at surveymonkey.com and links to it were only posted to social-justice-leaning websites. And people were only supposed to take the survey if they're a teenage boy, on the honor system.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/...sue_and_others/
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/c...including_time/

After they got called out, the authors admitted it was just a "convenience sample" in order to start a discussion:
https://archive.is/RkVMD

I'm waiting on Time Magazine and The Guardian to print some retractions.


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