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Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters
#340687 - 05/30/15 01:56 AM
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First of all, its so awesome to finally have this game up and running. I love the GTFore Series.

Now I know the community gets these posts all the time, but I figured I'd pick the community's brain since I know we've all been looking forward to the GT Fore series for some time.

I've got an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and I'm getting some audio stutters. Anyone got any good tips to reduce those stuttering or is the audio stuttering something all of us are gonna have to live or do you think the only way to get over it is with something newer like an i7-4790K?

I've reviewed the FAQ as well:
http://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/FAQ:Audio]

I saw a YouTube video posted showing gtfore06 off a couple weeks before v162 was released and his hardware wasn't much better than mine, so I was excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r9JNWrs8oM]

So any advice?



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: evh347]
#340688 - 05/30/15 02:04 AM
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> First of all, its so awesome to finally have this game up and running. I love the
> GTFore Series.
>
> Now I know the community gets these posts all the time, but I figured I'd pick the
> community's brain since I know we've all been looking forward to the GT Fore series
> for some time.
>
> I've got an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and I'm getting some audio stutters. Anyone got any good
> tips to reduce those stuttering or is the audio stuttering something all of us are
> gonna have to live or do you think the only way to get over it is with something
> newer like an i7-4790K?
>
> I've reviewed the FAQ as well:
> http://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/FAQ:Audio]
>
> I saw a YouTube video posted showing gtfore06 off a couple weeks before v162 was
> released and his hardware wasn't much better than mine, so I was excited.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r9JNWrs8oM]
>
> So any advice?

Video recordings through MAME are always going to run full speed regardless of the emulation speed. The fact that it shows full speed on the video does not mean it played full speed all the time while recording.

Not much you can do - you might hope there are some speedups done along the way on the driver (not likely) or try to cut any programs running in the background that might take CPU. You'll know if your processor is handling it fully if you hit F10 to check the speed and check for it to be running 100%.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: evh347]
#340804 - 05/31/15 08:58 PM
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>
> So any advice?


Go into the dip switches and change the screen resolution to low. It obviously won't look as nice but the audio stuttering will be much less frequent. Here is a video of the game running on my computer which has a i5-3550 3.3 ghz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBzSIvVzW1k

Edited by DarthMarino (05/31/15 08:58 PM)


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: DarthMarino]
#340816 - 06/01/15 01:18 AM
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Are the GT Fore games ROM and CHD? If so, what are the sizes of the CHD files?

Thanks,
Jason



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: yoeddy]
#340817 - 06/01/15 01:27 AM
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> Are the GT Fore games ROM and CHD? If so, what are the sizes of the CHD files?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason

gtfore01 499MB
gtfore02 659MB
gtfore03 1.71 GB
gtfore04 2.01 GB
gtfore05 4.11 GB
gtfore06 1.00 GB

These include the clones as well.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: joey35car]
#340819 - 06/01/15 01:52 AM
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gtfore01 and gtfore06 are the only essential ones. gtfore06 (Golden Tee Fore! Complete) has all the courses in the series with the exception of two 9-hole courses exclusive to the first game (Royal Bannockburn & Rolling Acres).


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: Tafoid]
#341906 - 06/26/15 09:27 AM
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Any changes with 0.163 in terms of performance with the audio stuttering? May just come down to needing faster hardware, but there has been buzz about speed up enhancements.

Thanks,
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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: yoeddy]
#341919 - 06/26/15 01:26 PM
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> Any changes with 0.163 in terms of performance with the audio stuttering? May just
> come down to needing faster hardware, but there has been buzz about speed up
> enhancements.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason

I actually find the performance slightly worse on 0.163.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: DarthMarino]
#341921 - 06/26/15 01:42 PM
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I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99% with my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.

The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: joey35car]
#341924 - 06/26/15 03:53 PM
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> I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99% with
> my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.
>
> The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.

Which resolution are you playing on? I run on low res and while the performance isn't significantly worse, I get more audio stutters than usual and you can see it struggle sometimes on approach shots. Certainly not 40% though.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: DarthMarino]
#341925 - 06/26/15 04:13 PM
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> > I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99% with
> > my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.
> >
> > The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.
>
> Which resolution are you playing on? I run on low res and while the performance isn't
> significantly worse, I get more audio stutters than usual and you can see it struggle
> sometimes on approach shots. Certainly not 40% though.

I would advise trying it with the latest code that's in the git repo. Due to the architecture of the code, it's a crapshoot whether it will be using the non-accelerated color blending code or the CPU-accelerated color blending code. Give it a try and let me know. Also, yeah, double-check the resolution.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#341927 - 06/26/15 04:40 PM
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> > > I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99%
> with
> > > my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.
> > >
> > > The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.
> >
> > Which resolution are you playing on? I run on low res and while the performance
> isn't
> > significantly worse, I get more audio stutters than usual and you can see it
> struggle
> > sometimes on approach shots. Certainly not 40% though.
>
> I would advise trying it with the latest code that's in the git repo. Due to the
> architecture of the code, it's a crapshoot whether it will be using the
> non-accelerated color blending code or the CPU-accelerated color blending code. Give
> it a try and let me know. Also, yeah, double-check the resolution.

I'll try and do a compile this weekend and see what happens.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#341933 - 06/27/15 01:09 AM
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> I would advise trying it with the latest code that's in the git repo. Due to the
> architecture of the code, it's a crapshoot whether it will be using the
> non-accelerated color blending code or the CPU-accelerated color blending code. Give
> it a try and let me know. Also, yeah, double-check the resolution.

My crappy PC specs: i-3 2120 @3.30 64 bit win7. 6 GB memory
AMD Radeon HD 6670.

I just compiled to the newest and still a slow performance compared to 162. I was running close to 99% low res setting now barely 45-55%. This was playing all 18 holes.

http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...true#Post341205

Edited by joey35car (06/27/15 05:14 PM)



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#341948 - 06/27/15 03:56 PM
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> > > I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99%
> with
> > > my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.
> > >
> > > The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.
> >
> > Which resolution are you playing on? I run on low res and while the performance
> isn't
> > significantly worse, I get more audio stutters than usual and you can see it
> struggle
> > sometimes on approach shots. Certainly not 40% though.
>
> I would advise trying it with the latest code that's in the git repo. Due to the
> architecture of the code, it's a crapshoot whether it will be using the
> non-accelerated color blending code or the CPU-accelerated color blending code. Give
> it a try and let me know. Also, yeah, double-check the resolution.


This is such a hard game to analyze for performance. The version I compiled last night seems about the same as 0.162. I've been using the back 9 of Balmoral Greens as my test. Holes 10 and 11 in particular seem to struggle, some times more than other times. I switched back to 0.163 a few times and that always struggled the most.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: DarthMarino]
#341950 - 06/27/15 05:58 PM
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I just checked some new code that should help the performance.
There is still work being done on optimizing the current 3dfx voodoo code so hopefully it will get better.

Ted



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: tedgreen]
#341953 - 06/27/15 08:56 PM
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Thanks Ted



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: tedgreen]
#341959 - 06/27/15 11:28 PM
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> I just checked some new code that should help the performance.
> There is still work being done on optimizing the current 3dfx voodoo code so
> hopefully it will get better.
>
> Ted


The version up now is the best yet. A slight performance boost over 0.162. Keep up the good work.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: tedgreen]
#342035 - 06/30/15 05:05 AM
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> I just checked some new code that should help the performance.
> There is still work being done on optimizing the current 3dfx voodoo code so
> hopefully it will get better.
>
> Ted

Thanks Ted!



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: evh347]
#342037 - 06/30/15 05:25 AM
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The last change Ted made got reverted so it's back to how it was in 0.163.


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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#342048 - 07/01/15 11:19 AM
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> > > I can confirm this playing Golden tee Fore complete. I use to get close to 99%
> with
> > > my crappy setup now it barely reached 35-45%.
> > >
> > > The earlier GTfore games always ran slow.
> >
> > Which resolution are you playing on? I run on low res and while the performance
> isn't
> > significantly worse, I get more audio stutters than usual and you can see it
> struggle
> > sometimes on approach shots. Certainly not 40% though.
>
> I would advise trying it with the latest code that's in the git repo. Due to the
> architecture of the code, it's a crapshoot whether it will be using the
> non-accelerated color blending code or the CPU-accelerated color blending code. Give
> it a try and let me know. Also, yeah, double-check the resolution.






Listen to Mr intellectual here.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: snerds4532]
#342050 - 07/01/15 11:51 AM
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> Listen to Mr intellectual here.

Hi, Bart. Or should I say Pedro, or whatever your obvious nickname is this week.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#342557 - 07/16/15 09:38 PM
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I did a compile yesterday and it seems even better. I'm assuming the updates Ted did a few days back are the reason.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: DarthMarino]
#344284 - 08/21/15 09:29 PM
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are there any settings for windows that would make this game play better? if i can get this baby to run smooth without alot of stuttering i am going to build a pedestal golden tee cabinet and drink alot of beer! thanks for all the development!



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: flatus]
#344285 - 08/21/15 09:44 PM
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> are there any settings for windows that would make this game play better? if i can
> get this baby to run smooth without alot of stuttering i am going to build a pedestal
> golden tee cabinet and drink alot of beer! thanks for all the development!

The resolution dip switch is the only adjustment I found to provide any major performance boost.



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: flatus]
#344286 - 08/21/15 10:20 PM
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> are there any settings for windows that would make this game play better?

Getting a better computer sure works great!



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#348549 - 12/30/15 03:37 AM
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The performance running in medium resolution was totally acceptable on Mame 167 and versions prior leading up to gtfore06's release into Mame.

The performance on Mame 168 seems to have seriously digressed. Low-Alt resolution restores functionality, but obviously not the good looks.

i7-3770 @ 3.4Ghz, 16Gb



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Re: Golden Tee Fore! 2006 Complete - Audio Stutters new [Re: evh347]
#378171 - 08/15/18 07:31 PM
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I have a lowly Raspberry Pi 3b+ that I'm looking to upgrade to an I-5 to play GT Fore/06. Do we have a better/new handle on just what I need, precisely, to play it decently?

I am hoping the game has "improved" in the last year or two so I could get a 3rd/4th gen i5 to run it solidly?

thanks in advance!

James


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