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New MAME release schedule
#334674 - 11/27/14 02:13 AM


From http://www.mamedev.org/?p=397:

"Please note that from now on we will create release every last Wednesday in month."

Just curious - what prompted the change?



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: casm]
#334679 - 11/27/14 03:42 AM


> From http://www.mamedev.org/?p=397:
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> "Please note that from now on we will create release every last Wednesday in month."
>
> Just curious - what prompted the change?

I'm not sure it was actually discussed...

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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Stiletto]
#334697 - 11/27/14 05:15 PM


I liked it better when they spread them out a few months apart



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Outrun2006]
#334756 - 11/30/14 02:57 PM


Agreed, hassle to keep up like this



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: RATMNL]
#334783 - 12/01/14 06:10 AM


> Agreed, hassle to keep up like this


Jeesuus, how times have changed. Never woulda thunk it.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Traso]
#334784 - 12/01/14 06:26 AM


Times have not changed (in this regard). Most people will like the new schedule better, it's just that you can't please everybody and people are more likely to post about something they don't like than something they do.



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Re: New MAME release schedule *DELETED* new [Re: Smitdogg]
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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: ]
#334800 - 12/01/14 08:59 PM


> > Times have not changed (in this regard). Most people will like the new schedule better, it's just that you can't please everybody and people are more likely to post about something they don't like than something they do.


> It will definitely appeal to those who think more is better. Whether people like something or not is not a good judge of how good a system is though.

Lots of people liked the cheap credit that was available that triggered the financial crisis.



Well, the thread should probably have been locked after inception. An information, not a discussion, the topic is.

By the way, nifty new site layout and all (mamedev.org). I like it.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Traso]
#334810 - 12/02/14 05:52 AM


Enough with the lock jibber jabber, Yoda. I'm seriously about to add a new rule on the Rules page that says overall we don't give much of a fuck about all the above and mods/admins do whatever they want. Fucking rules, jesus.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Traso]
#334813 - 12/02/14 12:47 PM


> > Agreed, hassle to keep up like this
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>
> Jeesuus, how times have changed. Never woulda thunk it.

Well, with every MAME release I spent at LEAST 3 to 4 days to get the cab back up to scratch (Writing Custom-ini files and such, I really don't like catver.ini) So I'll probably fall behind somewhere, which is my personal issue, I know.

I read everything below my original post, and I agree that MOST people will like the new MAME each month, just will be a PITA for me. And yes, I tend to post more when I disagree :P

Edited by RATMNL (12/02/14 12:56 PM)



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Outrun2006]
#334816 - 12/02/14 05:42 PM


> I liked it better when they spread them out a few months apart

This may sound like a crazy, never though of and mind blowing idea but, how about updating every two or three official releases?



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: RATMNL]
#334832 - 12/03/14 10:17 AM


> Well, with every MAME release I spent at LEAST 3 to 4 days to get the cab back up to scratch (Writing Custom-ini files and such, I really don't like catver.ini)


The only thing I might have to do is add roms.....I don't understand why you'd do anything else....



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Smitdogg]
#334834 - 12/03/14 10:21 AM


> Enough with the lock jibber jabber, Yoda.

Ha, it just came out that way.


>I'm seriously about to add a new rule on the Rules page that says overall we don't give much of a fuck about all the above and mods/admins do whatever they want. Fucking rules, jesus.





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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: RATMNL]
#334848 - 12/03/14 05:57 PM


> > > Agreed, hassle to keep up like this
> >
> >
> > Jeesuus, how times have changed. Never woulda thunk it.
>
> Well, with every MAME release I spent at LEAST 3 to 4 days to get the cab back up to
> scratch (Writing Custom-ini files and such, I really don't like catver.ini) So I'll
> probably fall behind somewhere, which is my personal issue, I know.
>
> I read everything below my original post, and I agree that MOST people will like the
> new MAME each month, just will be a PITA for me. And yes, I tend to post more when I
> disagree :P

well, we (the team) need people to test our changes and report problems at a regular pace
since the userbase waiting for official releases is much wider than the one following github progress it is vital for the project to have new releases regularly

if this really creates problems at your end, please just skip the releases that you feel uncomfortable with (if the games you care about all work fine, you probably don't need to update at each release)



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Re: New MAME release schedule *DELETED* new [Re: etabeta]
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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: ]
#334904 - 12/05/14 04:59 PM


Many user groups, like ti99 or Coco programmers, only update every few releases and if e.g. the change to a clock chip or to a video chip add on only presents bug with a very specific config of emulated hardware it is easier to catch the problem when you have hundreds of testers than with a dozen only

It sounds like common sense to me



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: etabeta]
#334906 - 12/05/14 05:55 PM


It actually does, and with that in mind I can understand perfectly well why.
Thanks.



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Re: New MAME release schedule *DELETED* new [Re: etabeta]
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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: ]
#334910 - 12/05/14 09:46 PM


> > Many user groups, like ti99 or Coco programmers, only update every few releases and
>
> Don't you think that if we release more often then all they will do is skip more
> releases?
>
> We'd be much better off taking releases more seriously, which means we'd have to
> spread them out more. We're currently moving towards never having a release worth
> installing.

The biggest thing I brought away from the change is that, for the first time in a long time, we have a set time to 'expect' a release. For the last couple years, releases haven't been regular by any means or on any dependable schedule. With reliability/certainly of a schedule, you garner more people looking forward and/or getting excited about an upcoming release and knowing when it comes also allows those people to be able to prepare for a release if they so choose.

In the end, I think it is better for the project and I doubt quality in that actual releases will suffer in this transition.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: casm]
#334911 - 12/05/14 10:57 PM


Will the monthly releases be full version releases (0156 to 0157 for example) or update releases (.0156u1)? I'm assuming it depends, so both will happen. But, I was curious because I could see the rom/chd traffic go crazy if people are trying to get full sets every month.

Anywhooo, just curious.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: lamprey]
#334912 - 12/05/14 11:54 PM


> Will the monthly releases be full version releases (0156 to 0157 for example) or
> update releases (.0156u1)? I'm assuming it depends, so both will happen. But, I was
> curious because I could see the rom/chd traffic go crazy if people are trying to get
> full sets every month.
>
> Anywhooo, just curious.

AFAIK, all releases will be integer only releases.



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Re: New MAME release schedule new [Re: Tafoid]
#334934 - 12/07/14 04:18 AM


> In the end, I think it is better for the project and I doubt quality in that actual releases will suffer in this transition.


Plus it's only monthly. And ain't like it can't be changed....



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