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MAME 0.155 release date ?
#331803 - 09/15/14 05:48 PM
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This will be a HUGE iteration - so anyone know THE date ?
I am asking this because I am so impatient... ...and I think that I am not alone 
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: CTOJAH]
#331804 - 09/15/14 06:14 PM
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It ready when it's ready. When you see a lot of whatsnew.txt changes hitting the SVN you know it's really close.
Until then you have to compile your own or patiently wait for a release.
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: CTOJAH]
#331806 - 09/15/14 07:28 PM
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> This will be a HUGE iteration - so anyone know THE date ?
> I am asking this because I am so impatient... ...and I think that I am not alone
If that's how you feel, then you should learn to compile MAME yourself. This way you can try out new stuff as soon as it's committed to SVN.
It's not hard. Downloading the stuff you need will not interfere with normal operation of your PC or anything like that. Read, download, open a command prompt and type "make".
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: Sune]
#331811 - 09/15/14 09:04 PM
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foi o que eu fiz, aprendi a compilar, baixo do SVN, e faço minha própria versão(soundsync, no nag screen, 60hz...) não tenho mais paciência pra esperar por lançamentos...
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: edcosta]
#331812 - 09/15/14 09:29 PM
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> foi o que eu fiz, aprendi a compilar, baixo do SVN, e faço minha própria
> versão(soundsync, no nag screen, 60hz...) não tenho mais paciência pra esperar por
> lançamentos...
The language of this forum is English. Please speak it, so that others may understand you.
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: CTOJAH]
#331813 - 09/15/14 09:55 PM
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> This will be a HUGE iteration - so anyone know THE date ?
> I am asking this because I am so impatient... ...and I think that I am not alone
How to Compile Mame: The Easy Way
http://www.mamedev.org/tools/
Source can be found here: http://git.redump.net/mame/snapshot/mame-master.zip
or by using the programs Git or SVN to download it:
Code:
git clone git://git.redump.net/mame
or
Code:
svn co svn://dspnet.fr/mame/trunk
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: Master O]
#331817 - 09/16/14 12:49 AM
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> > foi o que eu fiz, aprendi a compilar, baixo do SVN, e faço minha própria versão(soundsync, no nag screen, 60hz...) não tenho mais paciência pra esperar por lançamentos...
> The language of this forum is English. Please speak it, so that others may understand you.
I think it was intentional.
Alternately, UIFX has the changes in.
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: Master O]
#331820 - 09/16/14 01:23 AM
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> > foi o que eu fiz, aprendi a compilar, baixo do SVN, e faço minha própria
> > versão(soundsync, no nag screen, 60hz...) não tenho mais paciência pra esperar por
> > lançamentos...
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> The language of this forum is English. Please speak it, so that others may understand
> you.
sorry...
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Already been done
[Re: CTOJAH]
#331824 - 09/16/14 02:58 AM
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Edited by bigbluefe (09/16/14 04:06 PM)
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331827 - 09/16/14 03:23 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331829 - 09/16/14 04:18 AM
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> But doesn't Raiden II have the same problem that all vertical games have right now
> with that shader? It will look pretty bad, if so. The shadow mask needs to be rotated
> for vertical games on monitors not in portrait orientation.
Correct.
Lottes_CRT
http://imgur.com/qseYLH8
CRT-geom
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> > But doesn't Raiden II have the same problem that all vertical games have right now
> > with that shader? It will look pretty bad, if so. The shadow mask needs to be
> rotated
> > for vertical games on monitors not in portrait orientation.
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> Correct.
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> Lottes_CRT
> http://imgur.com/qseYLH8
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> CRT-geom
> http://imgur.com/jZ78qQx
I see rainbows. Lottes_CRT 
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331836 - 09/16/14 05:41 AM
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Can you throw together a second shader for vertical games? I think having two shaders is a reasonable enough solution for the time being.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331837 - 09/16/14 05:45 AM
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I didn't even notice the problem because I play in portrait mode. 
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Quote:
Can you throw together a second shader for vertical games? I think having two shaders is a reasonable enough solution for the time being.
EDIT: Replaced the zip file with one that actually has the vertex shader in it. Sorry for the non-working version...
Sure.
And don't forget that you can use separate .ini files for vertical and horizontal games.
It's just a one line change (controlled with a #define at the top) to swap x&y in the shadow mask function. Gets rid of the moire though.
No guarantees that the default settings match the old ones though, and I may have broken stuff in the mean time (but I hope not)
Edited by SoltanGris42 (09/16/14 09:30 PM)
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331845 - 09/16/14 07:48 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331846 - 09/16/14 08:13 AM
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I see some kind of Rainbow patterns if I look closely at the screen, but it's still a big improvement over how it looked before.
Thanks for the vertical improvement
http://imgur.com/4d83NP8
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> I see some kind of Rainbow patterns if I look closely at the screen, but it's still a
> big improvement over how it looked before.
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> Thanks for the vertical improvement
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> http://imgur.com/4d83NP8
I see what you mean. But I don't get that!
So I'm a little suspicious because you clearly have different settings than me. Which is unlikely if you just downloaded it. Yours is definitely softer if you look in the lower left corner...
Are you really, really sure you're actually using the "Lottes_CRT_VERT".
This is what I see with the TV Mask and the Aperture Grill mask effects:
http://i.imgur.com/PWVozZC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qgn4OC0.jpg
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331849 - 09/16/14 10:00 AM
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> I see some kind of Rainbow patterns if I look closely at the screen, but it's still a
> big improvement over how it looked before.
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> Thanks for the vertical improvement
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> http://imgur.com/4d83NP8
Rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
Or copy the Lottes_CRT.vsh and then rename it. Drop it into SDLMAME folder.
Will take care of that issue. Just don't rotate it to 90. Use the Lottes_CRT.vsh on the rotate 90 screen.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331850 - 09/16/14 10:06 AM
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> > I see some kind of Rainbow patterns if I look closely at the screen, but it's still
> a
> > big improvement over how it looked before.
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> > Thanks for the vertical improvement
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> > http://imgur.com/4d83NP8
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> I see what you mean. But I don't get that!
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> So I'm a little suspicious because you clearly have different settings than me. Which
> is unlikely if you just downloaded it. Yours is definitely softer if you look in the
> lower left corner...
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> Are you really, really sure you're actually using the "Lottes_CRT_VERT".
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> This is what I see with the TV Mask and the Aperture Grill mask effects:
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> http://i.imgur.com/PWVozZC.jpg
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> http://i.imgur.com/Qgn4OC0.jpg
You forgot to put the Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh file in the zip. I had to make one.
I notice there is a extra file in the zip. I delete it. Lottes_CRT_VERT_rgb32.fsh
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331851 - 09/16/14 10:21 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331852 - 09/16/14 10:43 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331854 - 09/16/14 12:40 PM
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BTW, about CRT-geom : screen curvature is clearly incorrect in vertical games, which is why I either disable curvature or use the "CRT" shader instead.
I'm not sure I understood the benefit of CRT-geom over CRT, can anyone enlighten me ?
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> BTW, about CRT-geom : screen curvature is clearly incorrect in vertical games, which
> is why I either disable curvature or use the "CRT" shader instead.
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> I'm not sure I understood the benefit of CRT-geom over CRT, can anyone enlighten me ?
This will fix the screen for the vertical games. Curvature have nothing to do with the tilt screen. 
// (behavior might be a bit wrong if both components are nonzero)
const vec2 angle = vec2(0.0,0.0);
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331856 - 09/16/14 01:27 PM
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Looks awesome, but every game I play only runs at about 50% speed. Even simpler games like Pac-Man. Guess it's to demanding on my graphics card :-/
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Envisaged0ne]
#331857 - 09/16/14 01:35 PM
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I had to disable the bloom effect, here, on an old laptop.
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Re: Already been done
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#331858 - 09/16/14 01:46 PM
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> Looks awesome, but every game I play only runs at about 50% speed. Even simpler games
> like Pac-Man. Guess it's to demanding on my graphics card :-/
SDL2 is what slowing it down when the waitvsync and syncrefresh is at 1. To get the speed at 100% then disable those with a 0. It can't handle those for some reason. Better off with SDL1 builds for using those two options. Other wise leave those off for now. Happen on my end while back. I stop using SDL2 because of that issue.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Dullaron]
#331859 - 09/16/14 01:52 PM
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Thank you! That did the trick. They're all running at 100% now!
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Re: Already been done
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#331861 - 09/16/14 02:55 PM
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> Thank you! That did the trick. They're all running at 100% now!
Welcome
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Dullaron]
#331862 - 09/16/14 03:43 PM
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> You forgot to put the Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh file in the zip. I had to make one.
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> I notice there is a extra file in the zip. I delete it. Lottes_CRT_VERT_rgb32.fsh
Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it with us Dullaron ?
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Re: Already been done
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#331864 - 09/16/14 04:19 PM
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> Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it with us
> Dullaron ?
All the files are there. You just rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
The rainbows are gone now it seems
http://imgur.com/rQMeDXj
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331866 - 09/16/14 04:45 PM
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> > Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it with
> us
> > Dullaron ?
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> All the files are there. You just rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
OK, I can do that but I was thinking of the gentle user who comes along and just wants to download a turn-key solution
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331871 - 09/16/14 08:36 PM
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WTF?!? No rounded corners!! hehe, j/k! Thanks for putting this together! 
It looks like SDL2 might actually be usable on my system with a shader! Very exciting. Eagerly anticipating the final release!
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> > > Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it
> with
> > us
> > > Dullaron ?
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> > All the files are there. You just rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
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> OK, I can do that but I was thinking of the gentle user who comes along and just
> wants to download a turn-key solution
Sorry Guys.
Too many files that have similar names...
This should work.
I'm updating the older post too with the new zip file.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331874 - 09/16/14 09:34 PM
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> > Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it with
> us
> > Dullaron ?
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> All the files are there. You just rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
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> The rainbows are gone now it seems
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> http://imgur.com/rQMeDXj
Sorry. I should have realized that the reason it didn't work was because I messed up the zip file. I was trying to figure out how you were managing to NOT run the shader and I was confused because I know you know what you're doing!
I even checked the zip file last night, but for some reason I though the filenames in there were the correct ones. Too late at night I guess...
Oh well. It should be fixed now in the ZIP that's there...
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331875 - 09/16/14 09:42 PM
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> Sorry Guys.
> Too many files that have similar names...
> This should work.
> I'm updating the older post too with the new zip file.
Thank you very much
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> BTW, about CRT-geom : screen curvature is clearly incorrect in vertical games, which
> is why I either disable curvature or use the "CRT" shader instead.
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> I'm not sure I understood the benefit of CRT-geom over CRT, can anyone enlighten me ?
CRT-geom is from a dude named cgwg and is several years old. It either doesn't have a shadow mask effect or it can have alternating magenta/green stripes. It depends on the version you have. If you want something else for a shadow mask effect, you can use the "mame -effect some_shadow_mask.png" with an appropriate effect file.
Lottes_CRT is from Timothy Lottes: a graphics coder that has worked for big companies like nVidia (he developed fxaa and does interesting graphics research). I'm pretty sure he didn't know about previous shaders when he wrote his. I ported iy to SDLMAME/SDLMESS because I liked the aperture effect and I wanted to see how it looked on emulated games. Also, it doesn't hurt to remind people the SDL builds exist because the Windows HLSL effects need a lot of fiddling to look good with different systems/games.
But really, both shaders are comparable. Lottes' has built-in shadow mask effects and a small bloom effect*. cgwg has rounded corners and a screen tilt feature. The scaling/scanlines/etc are calculated a bit differently between them, but the result is pretty similar.
*There are multi-pass versions of cgwg's shader with bloom and other stuff added that work in other emulators. But SDLMAME/SDLMESS don't have the same features and so the CRT-geom we have is a little bit more limited.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331879 - 09/16/14 11:01 PM
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> Sorry. I should have realized that the reason it didn't work was because I messed up
> the zip file. I was trying to figure out how you were managing to NOT run the shader
> and I was confused because I know you know what you're doing!
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> I even checked the zip file last night, but for some reason I though the filenames in
> there were the correct ones. Too late at night I guess...
>
> Oh well. It should be fixed now in the ZIP that's there...
I Thank You again for your continued work and attention regarding the shader files. Anytime you feel like changes need to be made or something new can be added/tweaked, I'll be there to give it a run
Looking forward to tonight compiling a new build and checking out the latest Raiden2 progress
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Re: Already been done
[Re: SoltanGris42]
#331899 - 09/17/14 03:12 AM
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@SoltanGris42
This is what I get after a new compile and dropping in the files without any editing. Seems correct too me.
http://i.imgur.com/5EKGIKC.jpg
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Re: Already been done
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#331902 - 09/17/14 03:23 AM
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> > > > Would you mind putting all the appropriate files in a zip file and sharing it
> > with
> > > us
> > > > Dullaron ?
> > >
> > > All the files are there. You just rename Lottes_CRT.vsh to Lottes_CRT_VERT.vsh
> >
> > OK, I can do that but I was thinking of the gentle user who comes along and just
> > wants to download a turn-key solution
>
> Sorry Guys.
> Too many files that have similar names...
> This should work.
> I'm updating the older post too with the new zip file.
Thanks. I went ahead and replace those for these.
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: Master O]
#331918 - 09/17/14 05:40 AM
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Re: MAME 0.155 release date ?
[Re: Dullaron]
#331919 - 09/17/14 06:20 AM
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I would guess by the way he dodged the question, deleted his post and then uploaded another build to dropbox that he did, and is a bit skeevy. Points for enthusiasm though?
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Re: Already been done
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#331922 - 09/17/14 07:05 AM
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> I would guess by the way he dodged the question, deleted his post and then uploaded
> another build to dropbox that he did, and is a bit skeevy. Points for enthusiasm
> though?
0 points if applying an unofficial patch  
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Re: Already been done
[Re: B2K24]
#331926 - 09/17/14 07:20 AM
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Yeah especially if you're calling yourself "mamewip" and then using unofficial junk. That's gay. As in, using one piece of homosexual code to have anal sex with another piece of homosexual code. So I mean it in the strictest, Webster's Dicktionary definition, and not some slang offensive nonsense that went out of style in the 90s on account of politically correct pussies.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Smitdogg]
#331927 - 09/17/14 07:58 AM
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> I would guess by the way he dodged the question, deleted his post and then uploaded
> another build to dropbox that he did, and is a bit skeevy. Points for enthusiasm
> though?
To his credit, he didn't dodge it, we talked on irc.
OG.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Smitdogg]
#331928 - 09/17/14 08:29 AM
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> Yeah especially if you're calling yourself "mamewip" and then using unofficial junk.
> That's gay. As in, using one piece of homosexual code to have anal sex with another
> piece of homosexual code. So I mean it in the strictest, Webster's Dicktionary
> definition, and not some slang offensive nonsense that went out of style in the 90s
> on account of politically correct pussies.
I would go with saying that him posting under "mamewip" was a trademark infringement and is also pretty insulting.
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Re: Already been done
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#331936 - 09/17/14 02:02 PM
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> > Yeah especially if you're calling yourself "mamewip" and then using unofficial
> junk.
> > That's gay. As in, using one piece of homosexual code to have anal sex with another
> > piece of homosexual code. So I mean it in the strictest, Webster's Dicktionary
> > definition, and not some slang offensive nonsense that went out of style in the 90s
> > on account of politically correct pussies.
>
> I would go with saying that him posting under "mamewip" was a trademark infringement
> and is also pretty insulting.
Actually, Reddit account names can't be trademark infringement. They're user names on a website. They're not trademarks. It was an account for posting MAME WIP, so it was called "mamewip." There are also accounts with names such as "sonicthehedgehog" and "theterminator."
I don't see anyone posting "official" WIP anymore, but whatever. You win. I deleted the account. I won't be posting any more builds. Thanks.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Smitdogg]
#331937 - 09/17/14 02:12 PM
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> Yeah especially if you're calling yourself "mamewip" and then using unofficial junk.
> That's gay. As in, using one piece of homosexual code to have anal sex with another
> piece of homosexual code. So I mean it in the strictest, Webster's Dicktionary
> definition, and not some slang offensive nonsense that went out of style in the 90s
> on account of politically correct pussies.
Well, technically, no code was added in that build--only removed. So there was actually less homosexual code in that build than baseline.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331945 - 09/17/14 03:38 PM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331950 - 09/17/14 05:01 PM
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> Actually, Reddit account names can't be trademark infringement. They're user names on
> a website. They're not trademarks.
"Unauthorized use of third party trademarks on a social media site may lead to legal liability for trademark infringement, dilution or unfair competition. While, in certain circumstances, it may be a permissible “fair use” to refer to a company and its product or service in a product review, blog, or status posting, it is not permissible to use the trademarks of others to create a false impression of endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
I would say that your account failed on "it is not permissible to use the trademarks of others to create a false impression of endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
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Re: Already been done
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#331953 - 09/17/14 06:52 PM
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> > Actually, Reddit account names can't be trademark infringement. They're user names
> on
> > a website. They're not trademarks.
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> "Unauthorized use of third party trademarks on a social media site may lead to legal
> liability for trademark infringement, dilution or unfair competition. While, in
> certain circumstances, it may be a permissible “fair use” to refer to a company and
> its product or service in a product review, blog, or status posting, it is not
> permissible to use the trademarks of others to create a false impression of
> endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
>
>
> I would say that your account failed on "it is not permissible to use the trademarks
> of others to create a false impression of endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
Who gives a shit? The guy was posting a WIP for others to check out. Great. If you have a problem with it don't download it. Trying to piggy-back on the insult slinging done by the devs doesn't help the community.
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Re: Already been done
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#331974 - 09/18/14 02:40 AM
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> > Actually, Reddit account names can't be trademark infringement. They're user names
> on
> > a website. They're not trademarks.
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> "Unauthorized use of third party trademarks on a social media site may lead to legal
> liability for trademark infringement, dilution or unfair competition. While, in
> certain circumstances, it may be a permissible “fair use” to refer to a company and
> its product or service in a product review, blog, or status posting, it is not
> permissible to use the trademarks of others to create a false impression of
> endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
>
>
> I would say that your account failed on "it is not permissible to use the trademarks
> of others to create a false impression of endorsement, affiliation or sponsorship."
Bullshit. In no way did it give an impression of endorsement or affiliation. In fact, the posts specifically said "I compiled," not "MAMEdev has released." I never said I had any official connection to MAME. In fact, almost every affiliated social media account is something along the lines of "TheReal[Trademark]" for this exact reason.
Whatever. Water under the bridge.
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Re: Already been done
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#331977 - 09/18/14 04:36 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: lamprey]
#331985 - 09/18/14 08:25 AM
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> Who gives a shit? The guy was posting a WIP for others to check out. Great.
An innocent person would sign up on reddit with the same handle they use here.
> If you have a problem with it don't download it.
My problem is with someone elevating their status by pretending to be associated with us and not downloading it doesn't solve that problem.
> Trying to piggy-back on the insult slinging done by the devs doesn't help the community.
Insulting devs doesn't help the community.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331986 - 09/18/14 08:29 AM
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> Bullshit. In no way did it give an impression of endorsement or affiliation. In fact,
> the posts specifically said "I compiled," not "MAMEdev has released." I never said I
> had any official connection to MAME.
Someone asked when 0.155 was going to be released and you said it already had been and linked to your reddit post. You don't think that creates an impression?
> In fact, almost every affiliated social media
> account is something along the lines of "TheReal[Trademark]" for this exact reason.
I guess the first four I picked are the exceptions?
https://www.facebook.com/cocacola
https://www.facebook.com/levis
https://www.facebook.com/ford
https://www.facebook.com/BMW
Edited by smf (09/18/14 08:29 AM)
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Re: Already been done
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#331987 - 09/18/14 08:40 AM
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> > Bullshit. In no way did it give an impression of endorsement or affiliation. In
> fact,
> > the posts specifically said "I compiled," not "MAMEdev has released." I never said
> I
> > had any official connection to MAME.
>
> Someone asked when 0.155 was going to be released and you said it already had been
> and linked to your reddit post. You don't think that creates an impression?
>
> > In fact, almost every affiliated social media
> > account is something along the lines of "TheReal[Trademark]" for this exact reason.
>
> I guess the first four I picked are the exceptions?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/cocacola
> https://www.facebook.com/levis
> https://www.facebook.com/ford
> https://www.facebook.com/BMW
The only reason the original poster was asking when 0.155 was going to be released was because he was "impatient" and wanted to play Raiden 2 now. When I said "already been done," I meant that a build that plays Raiden 2 had already been released, which is what he actually wanted. You could call the build 0.0001, and if it played Raiden 2, I don't think he would have cared. He asked the question under the assumption that he had to wait for the next official release to play Raiden 2, which isn't true.
Facebook profiles are not the same as throwaway Reddit accounts. Facebook is built around tying you to your real identity. Reddit is almost entirely anonymous.
http://www.reddit.com/user/sonicthehedgehog
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Re: Already been done
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#331988 - 09/18/14 08:42 AM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331992 - 09/18/14 11:39 AM
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> The only reason the original poster was asking when 0.155 was going to be released
> was because he was "impatient" and wanted to play Raiden 2 now. When I said "already
> been done," I meant that a build that plays Raiden 2 had already been released, which
> is what he actually wanted. You could call the build 0.0001, and if it played Raiden
> 2, I don't think he would have cared. He asked the question under the assumption that
> he had to wait for the next official release to play Raiden 2, which isn't true.
The question was pretty explicit and didn't mention Raiden 2. Assuming that a different question was being asked and answering it without mentioning your assumption and using a reddit user name that violates the MAME trademark, you were being misleading. Whether you did this on purpose or through ignorance is not important. The test for a trademark violation is
> Facebook profiles are not the same as throwaway Reddit accounts. Facebook is built
> around tying you to your real identity. Reddit is almost entirely anonymous.
>
> http://www.reddit.com/user/sonicthehedgehog
That user isn't posting anything that could be mistaken as a relationship with Sega, therefore it's ok.
"If you use an identical or similar trade mark for identical or similar goods and services to a registered trade mark - you may be infringing the registered mark if your use creates a likelihood of confusion on the part of the public."
tldr; You need permission to use the MAME registered trademark in any way when engaging in any activity that is related to emulation. This includes releasing your own builds of MAME.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#331996 - 09/18/14 01:06 PM
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> blaa, bla, bla
Try agree to disagree.
As you said, this issue is already water under the bridge.
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Re: Already been done
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#332004 - 09/18/14 04:18 PM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: hap]
#332005 - 09/18/14 04:21 PM
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Re: Already been done
[Re: hap]
#332007 - 09/18/14 04:45 PM
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> > blaa, bla, bla
>
> Try agree to disagree.
> As you said, this issue is already water under the bridge.
As Tafoid noted when he registered, this guy has been banned in the past for trolling so it's unsurprising he'd eventually go there.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#332075 - 09/19/14 11:21 PM
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> Look at the guy's post history.
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> http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...true#Post331398
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> Stop bullshitting.
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> He was talking about Raiden 2, and you know it.
No, I didn't know it. I don't expect to have to cyber-stalk someone to re-interpret a perfectly clear question and answer.
You were so busy jacking off over your l337 build and trying to make friends by posting it all over the place whenever you could that you didn't care that your post was at best accidentally misleading.
The fact that you can't even acknowledge that speaks volumes about your original intentions.
Edited by smf (09/19/14 11:29 PM)
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Re: Already been done
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#332078 - 09/20/14 02:22 AM
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Can you just shut the fuck up, you arrogant douchebag?
It's painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that the only interesting thing about the next MAME release as of his posting was Raiden 2 (the other sound improvement wasn't done yet). What else would he have been so impatient about? Some stupid refactoring of a driver in MESS nobody cares about?
You are such a miserable, disingenuous piece of shit. Feigning ignorance in the pitiful hope of pushing through your bullshit argument. You disgust me. Unlike you, I'm actually sincere. I'm not an actor who pretends he doesn't know something just to be an argumentative dickhead on the internet.
You're wrong, you've been proven wrong, and you just won't shut up.
Stop typing. Nobody cares.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#332082 - 09/20/14 05:04 AM
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> Can you just shut the fuck up, you arrogant douchebag?
>
> It's painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that the only interesting thing
> about the next MAME release as of his posting was Raiden 2 (the other sound
> improvement wasn't done yet). What else would he have been so impatient about? Some
> stupid refactoring of a driver in MESS nobody cares about?
>
> You are such a miserable, disingenuous piece of shit. Feigning ignorance in the
> pitiful hope of pushing through your bullshit argument. You disgust me. Unlike you,
> I'm actually sincere. I'm not an actor who pretends he doesn't know something just to
> be an argumentative dickhead on the internet.
>
> You're wrong, you've been proven wrong, and you just won't shut up.
>
> Stop typing. Nobody cares.
Says who? The author of the ugliest frontend ever done? Yeah... that's you.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Ramirez]
#332083 - 09/20/14 05:25 AM
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So you think Street Fighter 2 is ugly? Fuck off, weirdo.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#332084 - 09/20/14 05:37 AM
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> So you think Street Fighter 2 is ugly? Fuck off, weirdo.
Taking into account the proper proportions;
If you cut a Van Gogh in pieces and shit all over it, will it look any good? Well that's more or less your frontend. Fuck off, retarded.
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Re: Already been done
[Re: Ramirez]
#332085 - 09/20/14 05:40 AM
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> > So you think Street Fighter 2 is ugly? Fuck off, weirdo.
>
> Taking into account the proper proportions;
> If you cut a Van Gogh in pieces and shit all over it, will it look any good? Well
> that's more or less your frontend. Fuck off, retarded.
Fuck off, retarded? Yeah, you're a real brainiac. Thanks for the sidelong compliment. Criticism from an idiot like you is the best validation a person can get.
You probably think this frontend looks good:
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#332093 - 09/20/14 10:09 AM
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> Can you just shut the fuck up, you arrogant douchebag?
> It's painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain that the only interesting thing
> about the next MAME release as of his posting was Raiden 2 (the other sound
> improvement wasn't done yet).
arrogant: having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.
eg, assuming that other people will find the same thing interesting as you.
There are other changes that are interesting to those with a full brain, even if the only thing interesting for people with half a brain is Raiden 2. But that does partly explain your behaviour.
> Unlike you, I'm actually sincere.
Basking in the reflected glory of others is not sincere.
I am sincere, if you're going into full on troll mode because you doubt that then it appears you're trashing your reputation for no good reason. It's pretty arrogant of you to assume I'd bother to make stuff up to persecute you.
> I'm not an actor who pretends he doesn't
> know something just to be an argumentative dickhead on the internet.
So you really don't know about trademarks? You aren't just feigning ignorance so you can be a dickhead?
> You're wrong, you've been proven wrong, and you just won't shut up.
proof: evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
What proof have you actually given?
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/scien...p-2014091890814
> Nobody cares.
Apparently you do.
Edited by smf (09/20/14 10:22 AM)
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Re: Already been done
[Re: bigbluefe]
#332097 - 09/20/14 12:57 PM
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Wow.. that's just hilarious
the frontend.. I'm staying away from that fight :P
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Re: Already been done
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#332101 - 09/20/14 03:47 PM
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Stop typing, douchebag.
Posting MAME builds is basking in the reflected glory of others? I don't know what planet you live on. You're completely off your rocker.
You know he only cared about Raiden 2. You know that's why he posted. You're a fake, pretending that you didn't know what he was talking about just to make your stupid non-argument.
Trashing my reputation? What reputation? It's a random account on an arcade forum I couldn't care less about. You seem to be the only one obsessed with reputation. You're the egomaniac.
You're also the one trolling me. You've been proven wrong about everything you said (that username didn't infringe on any trademark, there was no attempt to associate myself with any douchebags like yourself, and the original poster only cared about Raiden 2--not 0.155 specifically). I didn't post the build to "make friends" (why would I have taken it down if that were the case? I got private messages on Reddit asking me to put it back up).
I'm done playing, though. You can have the last word. A smarmy, squalid asshole like you will have to vomit up one more pile of lies before he's done, but I'm not wasting any more time on you. You're a troll and an asshole.
Go to hell.
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