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Just got this board set on eBay...
#326656 - 06/07/14 01:03 AM Attachment: $_57_1.JPG 223 KB (4 downloads)


Still not sure what it is.

PROMs are marked "Dal A1" "Dal A2" etc.

There was a piece of masking tape that said "Super Sear" with some burn marks on it.

I will try reading the PROMs later.

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#326657 - 06/07/14 01:03 AM Attachment: $_57_5.JPG 171 KB (0 downloads)


another pic
> Still not sure what it is.
>
> PROMs are marked "Dal A1" "Dal A2" etc.
>
> There was a piece of masking tape that said "Super Sear" with some burn marks on it.
>
> I will try reading the PROMs later.

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#326658 - 06/07/14 01:04 AM Attachment: $_57_6.JPG 117 KB (0 downloads)


and one more
> another pic
> > Still not sure what it is.
> >
> > PROMs are marked "Dal A1" "Dal A2" etc.
> >
> > There was a piece of masking tape that said "Super Sear" with some burn marks on
> it.
> >
> > I will try reading the PROMs later.

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#326659 - 06/07/14 01:22 AM Attachment: tape.JPG 286 KB (0 downloads)


Here's a hi-res scan of the masking tape.

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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326660 - 06/07/14 01:35 AM Attachment: ROM board.JPG 3622 KB (0 downloads)


Here's a hi-res scan of the ROM board.

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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326661 - 06/07/14 01:35 AM


Might be "rusty gold" as the pickers say. Honestly you can just attach the roms here if you want, that thing is so old. I'd love to get contacted by the copyright holder.



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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326662 - 06/07/14 01:47 AM


> Here's a hi-res scan of the masking tape.

Looks like a tantalum caught fire on it...

Layout and component choice is screeming Kee/Atari...



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Sweet curves on those traces_nt new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326663 - 06/07/14 01:56 AM


> Here's a hi-res scan of the ROM board.

...which in Portuguese is "placa", which when you translate it back to English becomes "Plate".

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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: italie]
#326664 - 06/07/14 03:07 AM


> Layout and component choice is screeming Kee/Atari...

Agreed, or someone who copied them.

I'm not so much a hands-on experience person but I've looked through dozens of PCB photos like this while going through all the early Atari/Kee PCB photos as well as those on Discrete Logistics.

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Re: Sweet curves on those traces_nt new [Re: Sune]
#326667 - 06/07/14 04:00 AM


> > Here's a hi-res scan of the ROM board.
>
> ...which in Portuguese is "placa", which when you translate it back to English
> becomes "Plate".
>
> -S


Dude, sweet.

You can see in the lower placa, that there is a distinct 'V' shape which I do not find at all attractive. The upper placa show a more robustly rounded trace placement which is more to my liking.




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Re: Sweet curves on those traces_nt new [Re: jeremymtc]
#326669 - 06/07/14 05:06 AM


> You can see in the lower placa, that there is a distinct 'V' shape which I do not
> find at all attractive. The upper placa show a more robustly rounded trace placement
> which is more to my liking.

And did you see those phat ol' caps.. I know who's putting the shag in poke's shag carpet tonight..

S



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Re: Sweet curves on those traces_nt new [Re: Sune]
#326679 - 06/07/14 02:53 PM


> And did you see those phat ol' caps.. I know who's putting the shag in poke's shag
> carpet tonight..
>
> S

Actually, all of the shag carpet pics are from the eBay seller! :P







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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326709 - 06/08/14 04:54 AM


I read all the D2716 chips.

Except for ROMs at A4, A8 and B3, they all came up as Phoenix ROMs.

I don't have any way to read the 2 N82S129F PROM chips.

Mystery solved.







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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326723 - 06/08/14 07:07 PM


> I read all the D2716 chips.
>
> Except for ROMs at A4, A8 and B3, they all came up as Phoenix ROMs.
>
> I don't have any way to read the 2 N82S129F PROM chips.
>
> Mystery solved.

Not in a million years would I have guessed that...



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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326727 - 06/08/14 09:47 PM


If some of the roms didn't romident then send the dump in. The 82S129 can be read as 7114(7052), 27S21, 6301-1, 74S287, 24S10, 7611-5, 93427, 5623, 29661, 3621, or KR556RT11. Or you can mail them to me if you want.



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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326731 - 06/08/14 10:22 PM


> Here's a hi-res scan of the masking tape.

DAL or D&L (at some point I knew what it stood for) was a prolific maker of bootlegs, notably phoenix/naughty boy hardware, in the early 80s in the USA.

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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: italie]
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>
> Not in a million years would I have guessed that...

I know, right?!?!?!?!



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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: Smitdogg]
#326741 - 06/09/14 02:40 PM


> If some of the roms didn't romident then send the dump in. The 82S129 can be read as
> 7114(7052), 27S21, 6301-1, 74S287, 24S10, 7611-5, 93427, 5623, 29661, 3621, or
> KR556RT11. Or you can mail them to me if you want.

I got the B3 to read and match after cleaning the pins a bit.

Funny thing was that the D3 and D4 chips were the worst as far a corrosion goes but yet they read fine.

What do you use to read the smaller PROMs? I've got an Andromeda Labs AR-32A and this is a good excuse to order the extra module.



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Re: Just got this board set on eBay... new [Re: PokeMAME]
#326748 - 06/09/14 07:16 PM


I use an old BP Microsystems programmer for bproms. Just check chip support lists before buying anything. But the ones on that board could very well match the normal Phoenix ones.


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