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"That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..."
#313336 - 08/24/13 04:04 AM


As it turns out, in "The Avengers"... it was the MSX port of Galaga. (I'm sure a few of you never heard of the MSX, but I'm sure all of you could tell it was a port.)

... and they copied a YouTube video at that.

As I'm sure you guessed, I knew all along it wasn't the real Galaga and I could tell it was gonna be some weird port. Hadn't figured on the YouTube copying.


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7866/wfxd.jpg

Thanks to "Vincent van Dam" and "LeandroCorreia" of msx.org forum for the discovery.

Discovery thread:
http://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/general-discussion/msx-avengers-movie?page=1

YouTube at the exact time as in Avengers, belonging to YouTube member "zhouluyi":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnNthHB0FdE&feature=player_detailpage#t=162
(2:42)



More info on the MSX:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX

The YouTube video is, of course, probably from an emulator, but I'm not sure.

Thanks to hap for the head's up.

- Stiletto



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: Stiletto]
#313341 - 08/24/13 05:44 AM


The Acting Ensign must be doing some kind of Rookie training simulations...



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Yep it is an emulator with that ROM. new [Re: Stiletto]
#313348 - 08/24/13 07:25 AM


I can see the bar at the top of the screen. MESS maybe? Who know what kind of that emulator is. Unless it a UME from Haze website.



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: Stiletto]
#313351 - 08/24/13 07:53 AM


> As it turns out, in "The Avengers"... it was the MSX port of Galaga. (I'm sure a few
> of you never heard of the MSX, but I'm sure all of you could tell it was a port.)
>
> ... and they copied a YouTube video at that.
>
> As I'm sure you guessed, I knew all along it wasn't the real Galaga and I could tell
> it was gonna be some weird port. Hadn't figured on the YouTube copying.

It makes sense, all they needed was an image on the screen and sounds for 2 seconds. It would be crazy to go through the hassle of setting up an emulator and finding ROMs just for that. I'm impressed enough that it was actually some flavor of Galaga. I don't know how many shows, even today, still use a clip of the 2600 port of Pacman when the script calls for "video game sounds".



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: Stiletto]
#313358 - 08/24/13 05:23 PM


My guess on a similar topic that it was the NES version.

Close enough.



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: DMala]
#313401 - 08/25/13 07:43 PM


> It makes sense, all they needed was an image on the screen and sounds for 2 seconds.
> It would be crazy to go through the hassle of setting up an emulator and finding ROMs
> just for that. I'm impressed enough that it was actually some flavor of Galaga. I
> don't know how many shows, even today, still use a clip of the 2600 port of Pacman
> when the script calls for "video game sounds".

The major studios' sound departments each sell libraries of dozens of CDs worth of sound effects - practical recordings, Foley, electronic, etc. All the studios and most mid-size or larger video game developers have a copy or 3. One of those libraries contains "video game sounds" which are all stuff sampled off 2600 Pac-Man by someone back in the 80s.

WRT the original post, Downey ad-libbed the Galaga reference so it's fairly impressive the art department even pulled in something that actually was Galaga at all.



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: R. Belmont]
#313432 - 08/26/13 04:24 AM


> WRT the original post, Downey ad-libbed the Galaga reference so it's fairly
> impressive the art department even pulled in something that actually was Galaga at
> all.
That would explain why the LEGO set of the same scene features Space Invaders and not Galaga. (I dont own the set but I do own the space invaders part



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: R. Belmont]
#313436 - 08/26/13 05:40 AM


> > It makes sense, all they needed was an image on the screen and sounds for 2
> seconds.
> > It would be crazy to go through the hassle of setting up an emulator and finding
> ROMs
> > just for that. I'm impressed enough that it was actually some flavor of Galaga. I
> > don't know how many shows, even today, still use a clip of the 2600 port of Pacman
> > when the script calls for "video game sounds".
>
> The major studios' sound departments each sell libraries of dozens of CDs worth of
> sound effects - practical recordings, Foley, electronic, etc. All the studios and
> most mid-size or larger video game developers have a copy or 3. One of those
> libraries contains "video game sounds" which are all stuff sampled off 2600 Pac-Man
> by someone back in the 80s.
>
> WRT the original post, Downey ad-libbed the Galaga reference so it's fairly
> impressive the art department even pulled in something that actually was Galaga at
> all.

Very true. They either use the sounds from the 2600 version of Pac-Man or the 2600 of Donkey Kong. It's ironic they pick two of the worst arcade ports to represent sounds for all of video games.

That's why I was blown away when I saw Tron Legacy. When walking through Flynn's Arcade, every game was 1) A real arcade game 2) Had its correct sounds placed correctly relative to its position in the arcade. The sound designer on that movie was a obviously a video game buff and really cared about getting it perfect.



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: AtTheMoment]
#313442 - 08/26/13 06:26 AM


> That's why I was blown away when I saw Tron Legacy. When walking through Flynn's
> Arcade, every game was 1) A real arcade game 2) Had its correct sounds placed
> correctly relative to its position in the arcade. The sound designer on that movie
> was a obviously a video game buff and really cared about getting it perfect.

Yup. There was definite attention to detail in that walkthrough. Shame they didn't have Wendy Carlos score the thing though.



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Re: "That man is playing Galaga... well, he's playing a YouTube video of the MSX port..." new [Re: R. Belmont]
#313551 - 08/28/13 12:32 AM



>
> Yup. There was definite attention to detail in that walkthrough. Shame they didn't
> have Wendy Carlos score the thing though.

Daft Punk was a decent choice if they couldn't get Wendy Carlos. The filmmakers also scored extra goodwill points by using Journey (who provided two tracks for the original movie) for the arcade music.


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