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Spica Adventure - WTF
#310652 - 06/22/13 03:43 AM


Just watched part of the vid for Spica Adventure on MAME Chat, can you even die in that game? Do people just want to be rewarded without even having to try anymore. Bring back Space Invaders.

It looks too hard for a 2 yr old, but too easy for anyone above 3.

My rant for the day.
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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Derrick Renaud]
#310653 - 06/22/13 04:03 AM


It looks crazy easy. I wanted a weirdo platformer that wasn't in mame and figured it might sublim a dev into starting a Type X skeleton. Your rant is a welcome bonus.



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Mary Poppins meet Arcade. new [Re: Derrick Renaud]
#310654 - 06/22/13 04:25 AM


Hell ya.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Derrick Renaud]
#310655 - 06/22/13 04:56 AM


> Just watched part of the vid for Spica Adventure on MAME Chat, can you even die in
> that game? Do people just want to be rewarded without even having to try anymore.
> Bring back Space Invaders.
>
> It looks too hard for a 2 yr old, but too easy for anyone above 3.
>
> My rant for the day.

Games have a whole different mentality these days. It's not a question of if you can beat them, it's just a matter of whether you have enough time to invest to get to the end. I can't tell you how many 8- and 16-bit console games I've gone back and played, only to realize that, as a kid, I never made it past the first 2-3 levels. Heck, it took me 20 years to beat Mega Man. I don't know that it's inherently better or worse, but being good at a game definitely meant more back in the day.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: DMala]
#310659 - 06/22/13 05:43 AM


There are still hard games if you look in the right places but I get your point. I'm not sure we should call Spica Adv. a game from these days though. It's like 8 years old. That's like 45 in video game years.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: DMala]
#310672 - 06/22/13 01:10 PM


> I can't tell you how many 8- and 16-bit console games I've gone back and played,
> only to realize that, as a kid, I never made it past the first 2-3 levels. Heck, it
> took me 20 years to beat Mega Man. I don't know that it's inherently better or worse,
> but being good at a game definitely meant more back in the day.

I've become a worse player apparently. I've gone back to revisit games that I could beat with my eyes shut as a kid (Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, Mega Man, Lifeforce to name a few) and they absolutely destroy me these days.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Smitdogg]
#310680 - 06/23/13 04:48 AM


> There are still hard games if you look in the right places but I get your point. I'm
> not sure we should call Spica Adv. a game from these days though. It's like 8 years
> old. That's like 45 in video game years.

In video game years, I'm a fossil. I first noticed the decline of difficult games in probably the late 90s, so it's been going on for a while now.

And yeah, there are still hard games, but they tend to be niche games - deliberately retro games and bullet hell shooters and whatnot.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: DMala]
#310681 - 06/23/13 04:56 AM


Yep.

In regard to Allnatural's reply, you haven't really lost it, we're not nearly old enough to have our eye hand coordination etc. go to shit. It's just a matter of being in practice. Especially with something like Tyson's Punchout, so much of it is a matter of being in practice / memorizing enemy timing. Can't really clear it without current practice. Something like Super Mario or Megaman I bet would come back quickly with a little practice too. It has been that way for me at least.

According to a cheese movie I saw the other day, the average age of a gamer today is 37.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Allnatural]
#310683 - 06/23/13 05:40 AM


> I've become a worse player apparently. I've gone back to revisit games that I could
> beat with my eyes shut as a kid (Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, Mega Man, Lifeforce to name
> a few) and they absolutely destroy me these days.

Are you playing the original consoles on a CRT television?

I've found that certain types of games are often harder to play on emulators (even on the Wii) because the timing seems to be "off" somehow. Then, if you play them on an HDTV, the timing is really off because of lag. HDTVs with "game mode" help a lot, but they still seem slightly off.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: krick]
#310684 - 06/23/13 05:53 AM


Input lag. She is ze biggest bitch of zem all.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Smitdogg]
#310685 - 06/23/13 06:10 AM



> According to a cheese movie I saw the other day, the average age of a gamer today is
> 37.

Hmmm... So Orc is above average in some ways?



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: snake78]
#310686 - 06/23/13 06:14 AM


He is above average in the number of times someone shits their pants. It's cool because he holds the record in the seniors bracket as well as baby and toddler diaper brackets.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: krick]
#310696 - 06/23/13 01:51 PM


> I've found that certain types of games are often harder to play on emulators (even on
> the Wii) because the timing seems to be "off" somehow. Then, if you play them on an
> HDTV, the timing is really off because of lag. HDTVs with "game mode" help a lot, but
> they still seem slightly off.

Using emulators on the PC, with a CRT monitor and an N64 controller (that glorious d-pad) with USB adapter. It's true that things "feel" a bit off, especially dodging in Punch-Out. Whatever the reasons, it's still rather humbling to be laid out like a little bitch by Great Tiger.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Allnatural]
#310704 - 06/23/13 05:22 PM


Laid out by great tiger? With an Adaptoid? The problem is that you just suck. I'll admit it takes me a few times of using the warp-straight-to Tyson code to defeat him (but what do you expect from a 1 hit knock-down?) but I can get TO him pretty much any time.

If tiger kicks your butt, how do you manage Soda Popinski?

edit: and by the way, there is much more blocking involved with Tiger than dodging... that may be your problem!



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: URherenow]
#310772 - 06/25/13 12:04 AM


> Laid out by great tiger? With an Adaptoid? The problem is that you just suck. I'll
> admit it takes me a few times of using the warp-straight-to Tyson code to defeat him
> (but what do you expect from a 1 hit knock-down?) but I can get TO him pretty much
> any time.
>
> If tiger kicks your butt, how do you manage Soda Popinski?
>
> edit: and by the way, there is much more blocking involved with Tiger than dodging...
> that may be your problem!

I always dodged Great Tiger's teleport punch. Good for the stamina.

The whole game was a doddle when I was a kid. It was a good feeling being the first kid in the neighborhood to beat Tyson.



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Re: Spica Adventure - WTF new [Re: Allnatural]
#310778 - 06/25/13 02:18 AM



> The whole game was a doddle when I was a kid.

According to the dictionaries I've consulted, "doddle" is a word from the language of "small marine animals forming the food of whalebone whales," or "the young of herring and sprat," or may also mean "a tree cut back to the trunk to promote the growth of a dense head of foliage" as a synonym for "pollard."


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