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Mechanical Games
#297140 - 10/07/12 06:28 PM
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Well, I have a question about them. Fruit Machines are considered as Mechanicals. So, as I have no interest in them, I decided to hide them from my frontends. Many frontends have a "Hide Mechanicals" button.
Even after a scan, all the Pinball games dissapears, but not all Fruit Machines ones (particulary from Barcrest). There is still a list of maybe 100+ games still appearing. Same problem appears with "Not Classified" type games which obviously are Mechanicals too.
I tried with numerous frontends and they always give me the same amount of Fruit Machines not being counted as Mechanicals.
Does someone have the same issue ? Is this a MAME issue ? I use the original Mame64 from the official site. Thanks.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297141 - 10/07/12 06:46 PM
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There are video fruit/slot machines  Since most of them don't boot right now it's often hard to tell though.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297142 - 10/07/12 06:56 PM
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Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: R. Belmont]
#297143 - 10/07/12 07:08 PM
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> There are video fruit/slot machines Since most of them don't boot right now it's
> often hard to tell though.
Thanks for the explanation, so this is logical... Unfortunately, that doesn't help me from avoiding them !
Unscanning them is hard with ClrMAMEPRo (many Mechanicals have different set names), I don't know any frontend that hide games from their Catlist/Catver category... I think I'll have to live with "Video Mechanicals" !
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297144 - 10/07/12 07:12 PM
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You have to filter out gambling games.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297146 - 10/07/12 07:53 PM
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> You have to filter out gambling games.
Well I'm not a CMP specialist, I found out how to move Mechanicals and MPU4 Video Firmware from "roms" to "machanicals", but there is still the same roms that annoys me... I didn't find how to filter out gambling games !
http://www.emulab.it/forum/index.php?topic=708.msg3489#msg3489
Doesn't look so easy 
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297147 - 10/07/12 08:02 PM
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OK, I checked with CMP in the "Set Information" area, all these "Video Mechanicals" are clasified as Standard roms. So there is no way to unsort them properly. My bad !
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297150 - 10/07/12 10:16 PM
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> Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
When you don't have anything constructive to say, you better say nothing.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297152 - 10/07/12 10:33 PM
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> Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.” - Mark Twain
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Re: Mechanical Games
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#297157 - 10/07/12 11:37 PM
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Ramirez]
#297160 - 10/08/12 12:55 AM
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It may not be constructive but it certainly is good advice.I could see if they actually worked....;)
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297183 - 10/08/12 10:51 AM
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If you compile your own version, just remove unwanted games from src/mame/mame.lst. There are even [BEGIN] [END] tags for fruits and pinballs, making ctrl-f(ind) easier.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297184 - 10/08/12 11:52 AM
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> OK, I checked with CMP in the "Set Information" area, all these "Video Mechanicals"
> are clasified as Standard roms. So there is no way to unsort them properly. My bad !
This is how I have paths set up on cmpro and mame.ini. If I don't want something to show on MAME then I delete the paths out of the mame.ini. Take a while to do this and not fun ether.
I have this in my List.txt file.
roms\device
;roms\mechanical
;roms\standard
;roms\bios-3dobios
;roms\bios-acpsx
;roms\bios-airlbios
;roms\bios-aleck64
;roms\bios-alg_bios
;roms\bios-allied
;roms\bios-ar_bios
;roms\bios-aristmk5
;roms\bios-aristmk6
;roms\bios-atarisy1
;roms\bios-atluspsx
;roms\bios-atpsx
;roms\bios-awbios
;roms\bios-bubsys
;roms\bios-cd32bios
;roms\bios-cdibios
;roms\bios-chihiro
;roms\bios-cpzn1
;roms\bios-cpzn2
;roms\bios-crysbios
;roms\bios-decocass
;roms\bios-f355bios
;roms\bios-galgbios
;roms\bios-gp_110
;roms\bios-gq863
;roms\bios-gts1
;roms\bios-gts1s
;roms\bios-hikaru
;roms\bios-hng64
;roms\bios-hod2bios
;roms\bios-isgsm
;roms\bios-konamigv
;roms\bios-konamigx
;roms\bios-kviper
;roms\bios-mac2bios
;roms\bios-macsbios
;roms\bios-maxaflex
;roms\bios-megaplay
;roms\bios-megatech
;roms\bios-naomi
;roms\bios-naomi2
;roms\bios-naomigd
;roms\bios-neogeo
;roms\bios-nss
;roms\bios-pgm
;roms\bios-playch10
;roms\bios-psarc95
;roms\bios-pyson
;roms\bios-sammymdl
;roms\bios-sfcbox
;roms\bios-shtzone
;roms\bios-skns
;roms\bios-stvbios
;roms\bios-su2000
;roms\bios-sys246
;roms\bios-sys256
;roms\bios-sys573
;roms\bios-taitofx1
;roms\bios-taitogn
;roms\bios-taitotz
;roms\bios-tourvis
;roms\bios-tps
;roms\bios-triforce
;roms\bios-v4bios
;roms\bios-vspsx
I have this in my mame.ini.
rompath roms\device;roms\mechanical;roms\standard;roms\bios-3dobios;roms\bios-acpsx;roms\bios-airlbios;roms\bios-aleck64;roms\bios-alg_bios;roms\bios-allied;roms\bios-ar_bios;roms\bios-aristmk5;roms\bios-aristmk6;roms\bios-atarisy1;roms\bios-atluspsx;roms\bios-atpsx;roms\bios-awbios;roms\bios-bubsys;roms\bios-cd32bios;roms\bios-cdibios;roms\bios-chihiro;roms\bios-cpzn1;roms\bios-cpzn2;roms\bios-crysbios;roms\bios-decocass;roms\bios-f355bios;roms\bios-galgbios;roms\bios-gp_110;roms\bios-gq863;roms\bios-gts1;roms\bios-gts1s;roms\bios-hikaru;roms\bios-hng64;roms\bios-hod2bios;roms\bios-isgsm;roms\bios-konamigv;roms\bios-konamigx;roms\bios-kviper;roms\bios-mac2bios;roms\bios-macsbios;roms\bios-maxaflex;roms\bios-megaplay;roms\bios-megatech;roms\bios-naomi;roms\bios-naomi2;roms\bios-naomigd;roms\bios-neogeo;roms\bios-nss;roms\bios-pgm;roms\bios-playch10;roms\bios-psarc95;roms\bios-pyson;roms\bios-sammymdl;roms\bios-sfcbox;roms\bios-shtzone;roms\bios-skns;roms\bios-stvbios;roms\bios-su2000;roms\bios-sys246;roms\bios-sys256;roms\bios-sys573;roms\bios-taitofx1;roms\bios-taitogn;roms\bios-taitotz;roms\bios-tourvis;roms\bios-tps;roms\bios-triforce;roms\bios-v4bios;roms\bios-vspsx
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Jaylinx]
#297190 - 10/08/12 01:30 PM
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try to mask them via manufacturer or driver name
%s=*MPU4*;%s=*.... in select sets (+ invert)...guess they can be filtered out by drivers...semicolon separation allows multiple selections of driver files
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Ramirez]
#297197 - 10/08/12 03:36 PM
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> > Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> > (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
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> When you don't have anything constructive to say, you better say nothing.
I gave my opinion about certain games and also answered to OP !
Where is Your constructiveness ?
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Re: Mechanical Games
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#297199 - 10/08/12 03:44 PM
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> > Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> > (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
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> “It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove
> all doubt.” - Mark Twain
Hey Mister/Lady !
I took some time to look into Your posts here on MameWorld and find out that 99% of those scribbles of Yours are simply trolling...
No hard feeling, but I see no point in insulting someone on this forum or any other place on internet.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: Dullaron]
#297207 - 10/08/12 05:40 PM
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> I have this in my mame.ini.
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> rompath
> roms\device;roms\mechanical;roms\standard;roms\bios-3dobios;roms\bios-acpsx;roms\bios-airlbios;roms\bios-aleck64;roms\bios-alg_bios;roms\bios-allied;roms\bios-ar_bios;roms\bios-aristmk5;roms\bios-aristmk6;roms\bios-atarisy1;roms\bios-atluspsx;roms\bios-atpsx;roms\bios-awbios;roms\bios-bubsys;roms\bios-cd32bios;roms\bios-cdibios;roms\bios-chihiro;roms\bios-cpzn1;roms\bios-cpzn2;roms\bios-crysbios;roms\bios-decocass;roms\bios-f355bios;roms\bios-galgbios;roms\bios-gp_110;roms\bios-gq863;roms\bios-gts1;roms\bios-gts1s;roms\bios-hikaru;roms\bios-hng64;roms\bios-hod2bios;roms\bios-isgsm;roms\bios-konamigv;roms\bios-konamigx;roms\bios-kviper;roms\bios-mac2bios;roms\bios-macsbios;roms\bios-maxaflex;roms\bios-megaplay;roms\bios-megatech;roms\bios-naomi;roms\bios-naomi2;roms\bios-naomigd;roms\bios-neogeo;roms\bios-nss;roms\bios-pgm;roms\bios-playch10;roms\bios-psarc95;roms\bios-pyson;roms\bios-sammymdl;roms\bios-sfcbox;roms\bios-shtzone;roms\bios-skns;roms\bios-stvbios;roms\bios-su2000;roms\bios-sys246;roms\bios-sys256;roms\bios-sys573;roms\bios-taitofx1;roms\bios-taitogn;roms\bios-taitotz;roms\bios-tourvis;roms\bios-tps;roms\bios-triforce;roms\bios-v4bios;roms\bios-vspsx
Slightly OT, but be aware that a line in .ini files can't exceed 4095 bytes : I have 3 different "rompath" in my mame.ini file which can't be cumulative because they are too long !
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297212 - 10/08/12 08:11 PM
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> > > Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply
> delete
> > > (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
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> > When you don't have anything constructive to say, you better say nothing.
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> I gave my opinion about certain games and also answered to OP !
> Where is Your constructiveness ?
These sets are there because these games need to be preserved, and at some point, someone will work it out further.
Your "opinion" is disrespectful to Mamedev's work. You're simply trolling Mamedev's work. I'm trying to be constructive showing you that.
If this kind of opinion would be taken seriously, maybe we wouldn't have any fighting game, or shooters, or platform game in Mame 'cause someone would advocate that they are all garbage.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297222 - 10/09/12 12:00 AM
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> Hey Mister/Lady !
> I took some time to look into Your posts here on MameWorld and find out that 99% of
> those scribbles of Yours are simply trolling...
> No hard feeling, but I see no point in insulting someone on this forum or any other
> place on internet.
Yeah, but he posts dry puns, plays on words, and pop culture references. You just insult developers' intelligence. Go and make your own emulator, with blackjack, and hookers.
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[Re: stephh]
#297251 - 10/09/12 06:34 AM
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> Slightly OT, but be aware that a line in .ini files can't exceed 4095 bytes : I have
> 3 different "rompath" in my mame.ini file which can't be cumulative because they are
> too long !
If I want. I could just have all the BIOS folders into one instead of split into groups.
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Scratch that. 2 folders for now on. mechanical-games and video-games.
Edited by Dullaron (10/09/12 06:54 AM)
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297253 - 10/09/12 06:39 AM
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> Hey Mister/Lady !
> I took some time to look into Your posts here on MameWorld and find out that 99% of
> those scribbles of Yours are simply trolling...
> No hard feeling, but I see no point in insulting someone on this forum or any other
> place on internet.
So it's OK to insult MAME developers decisions as if they were some kind of morons, but it's bad to insult them directly. Got it.
Anyway. I'm sure if you were in charge, the remaining development team won't let you delete games you don't like so easily. Nice way to be removed from the project in minutes.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297257 - 10/09/12 06:55 AM
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> Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
Someone doesn't understand version control.
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: hap]
#297259 - 10/09/12 07:13 AM
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> If you compile your own version, just remove unwanted games from src/mame/mame.lst.
> There are even [BEGIN] [END] tags for fruits and pinballs, making ctrl-f(ind) easier.
Know what. Good idea. =)
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Re: Mechanical Games
[Re: CTOJAH]
#297274 - 10/09/12 02:48 PM
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> Mechanical games does not belong in MAME. If I was in charge, I would simply delete
> (holding SHIFT simultaneously) all of those garbage !
Your opinion doesn't count. Sorry.
Edited by smf (10/09/12 02:48 PM)
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Re: Mechanical Games
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#297530 - 10/14/12 08:43 PM
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Easiest way I have found is to use QMC2, so you don't have to strip rom sets or change things in the source.
Have QMC2 display the Driver status tab and click on that tab, which will sort the list of games by names alphabetically. First it shows good, imperfect, then preliminary stuff is pushed to the bottom which covers most of the stuff the majority of complainers are complaining about
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Since most of them don't boot right now it's often hard to tell though.
