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Challenger & Megatack - No Sound
#272436 - 01/08/12 05:46 AM
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I'm confused. Challenger has no sound. But the WIP of the game "Challenger" says that they "Added missing sound rom". Also, at the start of the game, it does NOT say that the game is missing sound. Normally, if a game has no sound, it will inform you that it has no sound in the beginning of the game and/or in the "Bugs" section of mameinfo.dat.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
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#272437 - 01/08/12 05:56 AM
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It's got sound for me. Are your ROMs correct for version 0.144u4?
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
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#272439 - 01/08/12 06:30 AM
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Even though the audit says "Passed" and it says there are no missing files. But after checking it out manually on MAWS alternative site, progettoemma, I noticed it's missing the chall.snd file. Which I assume is the sound file.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
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#272441 - 01/08/12 07:08 AM
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So why does the audit say "Passed" without listing that missing chall.snd sound file for that game? Shouldn't the audit list that missing sound file?
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
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#272442 - 01/08/12 08:34 AM
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Code:
mame64 challeng -listroms
ROMs required for driver "challeng".
Name Size Checksum
chall.6 4096 CRC(b30fe7f5) SHA1(ce93a57d626f90d31ddedbc35135f70758949dfa)
chall.5 4096 CRC(34c6a88e) SHA1(250577e2c8eb1d3a78cac679310ec38924ac1fe0)
chall.4 4096 CRC(0ddc18ef) SHA1(9f1aa27c71d7e7533bddf7de420c06fb0058cf60)
chall.3 4096 CRC(6ce03312) SHA1(69c047f501f327f568fe4ad1274168f9dda1ca70)
chall.2 4096 CRC(948912ad) SHA1(e79738ab94501f858f4d5f218787267523611e92)
chall.1 4096 CRC(7c71a9dc) SHA1(2530ada6390fb46c44bf7bf2636910ee54786493)
chall.snd 2048 CRC(1b2bffd2) SHA1(36ceb5abbc92a17576c375019f1c5900320398f9)
If you have those, maybe you should try deleting challeng.cfg, sta\challeng\auto.sta, etc.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: redk9258]
#272447 - 01/08/12 09:25 AM
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I have:
chall (This file is "chall", not "chall.1". But I renamed it to "chall.1" to see if it would fix the problem but it didn't)
chall.2
chall.3
chall.4
chall.5
chall.6
chall.snd (This file's size is only 2kb)
Is the chall.snd file supposed to be larger? I already tried deleting the challenger cfg, nvram, etc. files. It didn't work.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: OldSchoolGamer]
#272452 - 01/08/12 10:21 AM
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scan you set with ClrMAMEpro. No need to manually rename shit.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: B2K24]
#272453 - 01/08/12 10:39 AM
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There's nothing to rename. The only file that didn't match was that "chall" file. I renamed it to "chall.1" and it didn't work. And I don't think that file had anything to do with it because that is not the sound file.
Is your chall.snd (sound file) only 2kb in size? I think that's the problem. I think it's suppposed to be a larger size.
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I think I stumbled upon something. I just played "Megatack" which is also made by Centuri. The game looks nearly identical to Challenger. I also am getting no sound with this game. So I pressed F2 to go to the Service and I went to the audio section and I ran the tests for both games and there is a list of sounds/sound effects. For each one, the test was "No"... meaning that the sound wasn't enabled/working. How do I enable it? I posted a snapshot of the "Megatack" game's service screen.
[ATTACHED IMAGE]
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Re: Challenger & Megatack - No Sound
[Re: OldSchoolGamer]
#272456 - 01/08/12 02:54 PM
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> I'm confused. Challenger has no sound. But the WIP of the game "Challenger" says that
> they "Added missing sound rom". Also, at the start of the game, it does NOT say that
> the game is missing sound. Normally, if a game has no sound, it will inform you that
> it has no sound in the beginning of the game and/or in the "Bugs" section of
> mameinfo.dat.
MAME 0.144 saw a sound regression for those games which was fixed in 0.144u1. The reason why it was not noted in the latest MAMEINFO.DAT is because there was no bug logged on MameTesters for it. Please, when people are asking you what version you are using, you must be very specific with your response rather than keep the person helping you guessing for hours. Needless to say - upgrade and your issue with sound with these games will disappear.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: OldSchoolGamer]
#272459 - 01/08/12 04:23 PM
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I posted the required ROMs, sizes and checksums. Didn't you see that?
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Name Size Checksum
chall.6 4096 CRC(b30fe7f5) SHA1(ce93a57d626f90d31ddedbc35135f70758949dfa)
chall.5 4096 CRC(34c6a88e) SHA1(250577e2c8eb1d3a78cac679310ec38924ac1fe0)
chall.4 4096 CRC(0ddc18ef) SHA1(9f1aa27c71d7e7533bddf7de420c06fb0058cf60)
chall.3 4096 CRC(6ce03312) SHA1(69c047f501f327f568fe4ad1274168f9dda1ca70)
chall.2 4096 CRC(948912ad) SHA1(e79738ab94501f858f4d5f218787267523611e92)
chall.1 4096 CRC(7c71a9dc) SHA1(2530ada6390fb46c44bf7bf2636910ee54786493)
chall.snd 2048 CRC(1b2bffd2) SHA1(36ceb5abbc92a17576c375019f1c5900320398f9)
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: redk9258]
#272492 - 01/09/12 01:35 AM
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Oh I didn't notice that you posted the size
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Re: Challenger & Megatack - No Sound
[Re: Tafoid]
#272493 - 01/09/12 01:44 AM
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Nobody asked me what MAME version I was using. He asked about the ROM version. And I am using the latest release, MAMEUI 0.144 (not counting the "u" updates). And it wouldn't have mattered to him because he was obviously unaware of the sound regression as was I since it wasn't listed anywhere, otherwise he would have mentioned the sound regression. Now I know that the sound problem was fixed in the "u1" update of my version. I normally update my MAMEUI on "whole numbers" (or whatever it's called) instead of every week with the "u" updates. I didn't realize there was a sound regression since it wasn't listed as a bug nor in the WIP of mameinfo.dat. But thanks for informing me that it was fixed and explaining why it wasn't listed.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: OldSchoolGamer]
#272505 - 01/09/12 03:53 AM
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I just checked both of mine.
Show the same thing but the sound is working.
If yours isn't check that your sound works in other games.
If not, go through the sound options and see if you have something out of place there.
Good luck...
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: Bad A Billy]
#272521 - 01/09/12 05:23 AM
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The problem is solved. As Tafoid said, the sound is not working for me because there was a sound regression with those games in the version of MAMEUI I am using.
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Re: No Sound in Challenger
[Re: OldSchoolGamer]
#272583 - 01/10/12 12:01 AM
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> The problem is solved. As Tafoid said, the sound is not working for me because there
> was a sound regression with those games in the version of MAMEUI I am using.
Before asking/reporting a problem, make sure to always have the latest emu and rom versions. If you don't, make sure you mention it or else you'll get angry replies.
Everyone assumes you are going to have the latest of everything.
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