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Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ?
#270836 - 12/13/11 10:33 AM


Can anyone confirm this please?



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jimmy2x2x]
#270843 - 12/13/11 03:56 PM


> Can anyone confirm this please?

I tried and could not duplicate with default settings -hlsl.
The only other bug I know of in 0.144u2 for galaga (fixed for u3) was an autosave bug - do you use -autosave?



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: Tafoid]
#270862 - 12/13/11 10:27 PM


Thanks for the reply, no autosave here!

Its very strange as Galaga begins to POST all the way up to showing the white grid (with HLSL effects applied) then gives me a black screen after the white grid. Galaga plays blind at this point, changing in game sliders and reseting has no effect.

The only way for me to see anything beyond the white post grid is to disable HLSL.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jimmy2x2x]
#270865 - 12/13/11 11:20 PM


> Thanks for the reply, no autosave here!
>
> Its very strange as Galaga begins to POST all the way up to showing the white grid
> (with HLSL effects applied) then gives me a black screen after the white grid. Galaga
> plays blind at this point, changing in game sliders and reseting has no effect.

Galaga + HLSL works fine for me in .144u2

You probably have some settings or files from an older version of MAME that's causing a conflict somewhere.

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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jimmy2x2x]
#290839 - 07/03/12 05:39 PM


I have the same thing happen. Galaga screen goes blank after the white grid appears. I can get the game to display correctly for a bit if I hit the tab key when it is loading. I am using Win7 x64 and mame x64 .146u1 . If I disable hlsl it is also fine. Is Galaga still a problem for you or where you able to fix it?



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jrose78]
#290841 - 07/03/12 06:06 PM


> I have the same thing happen. Galaga screen goes blank after the white grid appears.
> I can get the game to display correctly for a bit if I hit the tab key when it is
> loading. I am using Win7 x64 and mame x64 .146u1 . If I disable hlsl it is also fine.
> Is Galaga still a problem for you or where you able to fix it?

HLSL runs entirely on your video card. Now, with that reminder, what information have you forgotten to report? And don't skimp on the driver version.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: R. Belmont]
#290847 - 07/03/12 07:26 PM


Oh I see how its going to be .. Well let me tell you what I do know. I have the same problem on 2 different machines (different hardware all around)
Machine 1 Win7 X64 PRof - GIGABYTE ATI Radeon HD6950
Machine 2 Win7 X64 Prof - Ati Radeon 6570

I have tried different Graphics Drivers.
Both Machines are amd CPU
Have Directx 9

I can give more detail but It will have to wait until I get home.

Running Game in Vertical mode on a cocktail table

Hmmm what else...



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jrose78]
#290859 - 07/03/12 10:03 PM


> Oh I see how its going to be .. Well let me tell you what I do know. I have the same
> problem on 2 different machines (different hardware all around)
> Machine 1 Win7 X64 PRof - GIGABYTE ATI Radeon HD6950
> Machine 2 Win7 X64 Prof - Ati Radeon 6570

How much VRAM on both, and what resolution were you running? (And does it work if you run lower-res?)



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: R. Belmont]
#290865 - 07/03/12 11:34 PM


The machine running mame has the 6570 and it has 2 gigs graphics memory ddr3. The games are running at 100% and so is galaga as F11 will display that information on the black screen. The resolution is 1600x1200. Trying 800x600 .. no difference. Video Driver 8.92 and also tried 8.84. Is there anyone here with Win7 Pro x64 with LCD and amd graphics that can try galaga and see if it blanks out after the white grid? I run groovymame but it doesn't matter because when I switch back to regular mame it still has the problem.

Edited by jrose78 (07/04/12 12:47 AM)



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jrose78]
#290870 - 07/04/12 01:03 AM


Core i7-2600 @3.40 GHz
8.00 GB RAM
Win 7 64-bit Home Premium Edition SP 1
ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1 GB - Driver 8.797.0.0
1920x1080

MAME 0.146u2 x64
No problems with Galaga.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: Trebor]
#290877 - 07/04/12 02:54 AM


HLSL enabled? The thing is the game works fine without hlsl enabled so I don't think its a bad rom. I will try 146u2 instead of 146u1. I am running out of ideas on this one. the simularaties between my 2 computers is the 6,000 series GPU and they both run amd processors.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: jrose78]
#290883 - 07/04/12 04:26 AM Attachment: Galaga.png 592 KB (0 downloads)


I think we can solve this if you use proper HLSL settings and executed mame64 -cc which creates a clean mame.ini (rename or backup your old one if needed)

Once you have everything setup again, if you could pastebin your mame.ini settings it might help figure things out.

Downloading and running MAME from a fresh path might not be a bad idea as well, incase it possibly fixes your issue.

Redownload the attached self compiled build that's posted here. http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...;new=1341268490

These settings are probably not the best, but I enjoy the way they look, so try them and see if they get you past the black screen.

Also, the attached MAME I suggested has correct HLSL and artwork files for HLSL, so not having the exact files could be what the problem might be.


Quote:


hlsl_enable 1
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_ini_read 0
hlsl_ini_write 0
hlslini %g
hlsl_prescale_x 2
hlsl_prescale_y 2
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write 0
hlsl_snap_width 1920
hlsl_snap_height 1080
shadow_mask_alpha 0.090000
shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 224
shadow_mask_usize 0.187500
shadow_mask_vsize 0.093750
curvature 0.040000
pincushion 0.040000
scanline_alpha 0.450000
scanline_size 1.000000
scanline_height 0.750000
scanline_bright_scale 1.000000
scanline_bright_offset 0.500000
scanline_jitter 0.000000
defocus 0.000000,0.000000
converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
radial_converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
radial_converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
red_ratio 1.000000,0.000000,0.000000
grn_ratio 0.000000,1.000000,0.000000
blu_ratio 0.000000,0.000000,1.000000
saturation 1.150000
offset 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
scale 0.950000,0.950000,0.950000
power 1.100000,1.100000,1.100000
floor 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
phosphor_life 0.200000,0.200000,0.200000
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.041830
yiq_a 0.000000
yiq_b 0.000000
yiq_o 3.600000
yiq_p 1.000000
yiq_n 1.000000
yiq_y 2.200000
yiq_i 0.800000
yiq_q 0.200000
yiq_scan_time 52.599998
yiq_phase_count 1




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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: B2K24]
#290900 - 07/04/12 01:42 PM


b2k24: I can't thank you enough. Your ini file is what fixed my problem. after I used your ini it worked so I was hell bent on figuring this out. I went line by line with your .ini and my .ini and it was the last setting that did it. The setting is yiq_phase_count 1 . Mine was set to a value of 2. There were other problems I had but I didn't mention them because I knew if I got galaga working they would work as well and I didn't want to overwhelm everyone with a list but here is what that 1 setting fixed.

Burgertime when rotated for cocktail and cocktail bit set would blank out on the first players second turn. Same with Digdug. Galaga would blank after the white grid. I am sure there are other but those are the ones I knew of.

I guess I am curious as to what that setting does and I thought if the setting yiq_enable 0 was set that the values below would be ignored.

Again thanks for all the help guys.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: B2K24]
#297175 - 10/08/12 07:18 AM


> I think we can solve this if you use proper HLSL settings and executed mame64 -cc
> which creates a clean mame.ini (rename or backup your old one if needed)
>
> Once you have everything setup again, if you could pastebin your mame.ini settings it
> might help figure things out.
>
> Downloading and running MAME from a fresh path might not be a bad idea as well,
> incase it possibly fixes your issue.
>
> Redownload the attached self compiled build that's posted here.
> http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...;new=1341268490
>
> These settings are probably not the best, but I enjoy the way they look, so try them
> and see if they get you past the black screen.
>
> Also, the attached MAME I suggested has correct HLSL and artwork files for HLSL, so
> not having the exact files could be what the problem might be.
>
> hlsl_enable 1
> hlslpath hlsl
> hlsl_ini_read 0
> hlsl_ini_write 0
> hlslini %g
> hlsl_prescale_x 2
> hlsl_prescale_y 2
> hlsl_preset -1
> hlsl_write 0
> hlsl_snap_width 1920
> hlsl_snap_height 1080
> shadow_mask_alpha 0.090000
> shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
> shadow_mask_x_count 320
> shadow_mask_y_count 224
> shadow_mask_usize 0.187500
> shadow_mask_vsize 0.093750
> curvature 0.040000
> pincushion 0.040000
> scanline_alpha 0.450000
> scanline_size 1.000000
> scanline_height 0.750000
> scanline_bright_scale 1.000000
> scanline_bright_offset 0.500000
> scanline_jitter 0.000000
> defocus 0.000000,0.000000
> converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> radial_converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> radial_converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> red_ratio 1.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> grn_ratio 0.000000,1.000000,0.000000
> blu_ratio 0.000000,0.000000,1.000000
> saturation 1.150000
> offset 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> scale 0.950000,0.950000,0.950000
> power 1.100000,1.100000,1.100000
> floor 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> phosphor_life 0.200000,0.200000,0.200000
> yiq_enable 0
> yiq_cc 3.041830
> yiq_a 0.000000
> yiq_b 0.000000
> yiq_o 3.600000
> yiq_p 1.000000
> yiq_n 1.000000
> yiq_y 2.200000
> yiq_i 0.800000
> yiq_q 0.200000
> yiq_scan_time 52.599998
> yiq_phase_count 1

All I did is use these to fix it. Anyway how I do the rest without the fishbowl effect? I done the scanlines effect and the screen fix part for Galaga.

yiq_scan_time 52.599998
yiq_phase_count 1

Using MAME 0.147 with a clean mame.ini. Gotta be the timing issue.



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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: Dullaron]
#297177 - 10/08/12 07:44 AM


> All I did is use these to fix it. Anyway how I do the rest without the fishbowl
> effect? I done the scanlines effect and the screen fix part for Galaga.


setting pincushion to all zeros will eliminate the "fishbowl effect"

These settings by John IV are really good and I'm enjoying them now for MAME


Quote:


hlsl_enable 1
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_ini_read 0
hlsl_ini_write 0
hlslini %g
hlsl_prescale_x 0
hlsl_prescale_y 0
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write
hlsl_snap_width 2048
hlsl_snap_height 1536
shadow_mask_alpha 0.05
shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 240
shadow_mask_usize 0.093750
shadow_mask_vsize 0.109375
curvature 0.000000
pincushion 0.030000
scanline_alpha 0.600000
scanline_size 1.000000
scanline_height 1.000000
scanline_bright_scale 1.000000
scanline_bright_offset 0.600000
scanline_jitter 0.000000
defocus 1.500000,1.500000
converge_x -0.400000,0.000000,0.000000
converge_y -0.700000,0.000000,0.000000
radial_converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
radial_converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
red_ratio 1.000000,0.000000,0.000000
grn_ratio 0.000000,1.000000,0.000000
blu_ratio 0.000000,0.000000,1.000000
saturation 1.050000
offset 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
scale 1.020000,1.020000,1.020000
power 1.300000,1.300000,1.300000
floor 0.020000,0.020000,0.020000
phosphor_life 0.100000,0.100000,0.100000
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.597545
yiq_a 0.500000
yiq_b 0.500000
yiq_o 0.000000
yiq_p 1.000000
yiq_n 1.000000
yiq_y 6.000000
yiq_i 1.200000
yiq_q 0.600000
yiq_scan_time 52.599998
yiq_phase_count 2





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Re: Galaga black screen with HLSL / 0.144u2 ? new [Re: B2K24]
#297178 - 10/08/12 07:49 AM


> > All I did is use these to fix it. Anyway how I do the rest without the fishbowl
> > effect? I done the scanlines effect and the screen fix part for Galaga.
>
>
> setting pincushion to all zeros will eliminate the "fishbowl effect"
>
> These settings by John IV are really good and I'm enjoying them now for MAME
>
> hlsl_enable 1
> hlslpath hlsl
> hlsl_ini_read 0
> hlsl_ini_write 0
> hlslini %g
> hlsl_prescale_x 0
> hlsl_prescale_y 0
> hlsl_preset -1
> hlsl_write
> hlsl_snap_width 2048
> hlsl_snap_height 1536
> shadow_mask_alpha 0.05
> shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
> shadow_mask_x_count 320
> shadow_mask_y_count 240
> shadow_mask_usize 0.093750
> shadow_mask_vsize 0.109375
> curvature 0.000000
> pincushion 0.030000
> scanline_alpha 0.600000
> scanline_size 1.000000
> scanline_height 1.000000
> scanline_bright_scale 1.000000
> scanline_bright_offset 0.600000
> scanline_jitter 0.000000
> defocus 1.500000,1.500000
> converge_x -0.400000,0.000000,0.000000
> converge_y -0.700000,0.000000,0.000000
> radial_converge_x 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> radial_converge_y 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> red_ratio 1.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> grn_ratio 0.000000,1.000000,0.000000
> blu_ratio 0.000000,0.000000,1.000000
> saturation 1.050000
> offset 0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
> scale 1.020000,1.020000,1.020000
> power 1.300000,1.300000,1.300000
> floor 0.020000,0.020000,0.020000
> phosphor_life 0.100000,0.100000,0.100000
> yiq_enable 0
> yiq_cc 3.597545
> yiq_a 0.500000
> yiq_b 0.500000
> yiq_o 0.000000
> yiq_p 1.000000
> yiq_n 1.000000
> yiq_y 6.000000
> yiq_i 1.200000
> yiq_q 0.600000
> yiq_scan_time 52.599998
> yiq_phase_count 2

Oh cool man. This one I really do like. Put more screen effect. I will send this to my friend. He will love this settings as well. Thanks for sharing this. I put a # front of the 3 to disabled it.

========================

yiq_phase_count 2

to

yiq_phase_count 1

If you having a problem getting some games to show.

Edited by Dullaron (10/08/12 07:59 AM)



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