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WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
#265349 - 09/30/11 02:11 AM
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If you're having them with that version, please reply and give your video card brand and model, what game(s) show the problem, and what your output resolution is. MG has fixed the other reported problems for the next MAME but he needs to be able to reproduce the cases where the seam still happens in order to address it.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: R. Belmont]
#265351 - 09/30/11 02:32 AM
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: B2K24]
#265366 - 09/30/11 06:03 AM
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Excuse me if it's off topic, I never saw any "seam" but I am having a unique problem that I haven't heard from others.
Should I report my problem and video card as well?
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
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#265383 - 09/30/11 03:00 PM
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> Excuse me if it's off topic, I never saw any "seam" but I am having a unique problem
> that I haven't heard from others.
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> Should I report my problem and video card as well?
Yes, please. Also the contents of your hlsl.ini would be useful. And if you can get a screenshot of the problem that would be great.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: R. Belmont]
#265419 - 10/01/11 01:35 AM
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- Okay, when HLSL is enabled, MAME will not boot ANY rom I select. After a game is selected from the list, MAME closes out as it should, but does not load the rom afterward. MAMEUI will boot a rom once and then crashes following an error message when I exit.
- I've experienced this problem since u5.
- My video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS.
- My hlsl ini settings:
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# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable 1
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_ini_read 0
hlsl_ini_write 0
hlslini %g
hlsl_prescale_x 0
hlsl_prescale_y 0
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write
hlsl_snap_width 2048
hlsl_snap_height 1536
shadow_mask_alpha 0.0
shadow_mask_texture aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 240
shadow_mask_usize 0.09375
shadow_mask_vsize 0.109375
curvature 0.0
pincushion 0.0
scanline_alpha 0.0
scanline_size 1.0
scanline_height 0.7
scanline_bright_scale 1.0
scanline_bright_offset 0.0
scanline_jitter 0.0
defocus 0.0,0.0
converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio 1.0,0.0,0.0
grn_ratio 0.0,1.0,0.0
blu_ratio 0.0,0.0,1.0
saturation 1.0
offset 0.0,0.0,0.0
scale 1.0,1.0,1.0
power 1.0,1.0,1.0
floor 0.0,0.0,0.0
phosphor_life 0.0,0.0,0.0
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.59754545
yiq_a 0.5
yiq_b 0.5
yiq_o 0.0
yiq_p 1.0
yiq_n 1.0
yiq_y 6.0
yiq_i 1.2
yiq_q 0.6
yiq_scan_time 52.6
yiq_phase_count 2
I made no changes to it's default settings and my hlsl folder contains all the .fx files.
- Screenshots wiith commentary are followed by this post.
Thank you!
Edited by Mozii (10/01/11 01:38 AM)
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
#265432 - 10/01/11 02:44 AM
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Please check the following:
- Delete any per-game .INI files in the HLSL folder. For a time they were automatically written and there were crashes associated with them because certain parts of the information were not able to be stored and reread correctly.
- Try a completely fresh folder and install the binary listed here - http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=265009 Does it crash still? If you are still crashing, does it let you play at all then crash on exit, or does it crash all on it's own?
You've state you've had no problems until 0.143u5? Did you at any time adjust your video card driver or do any similar video related updates since it last worked? Can you run earlier version you said did work.. or are those crashing too? Are you using Windows XP or Windows 2000?
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Tafoid]
#265438 - 10/01/11 08:57 AM Attachment: 4.JPG 70 KB (1 downloads)
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Hey Tafoid, thank you for responding.
HLSL folder was clear with the exception of the .fx files. There are no .ini files in the hlsl folder. Still experienced the same problems.
Yes, prior to u5 HLSL ran fine (granted all the bugs that were known at the time in earlier versions). Didn't make any changes to my video card or video settings as far as I know. Tried downloading MAME 143u4 and it ran roms with HLSL fine, so yes u5 and beyond are the only MAME builds giving me this problem. I'm running Windows XP.
As for the binary you gave me, this was a little interesting. I deleted the old folder and tried that one. When I first tried to load roms I was being given an error message each time stating "Unable to create the Direct3D device (8876086C)." Not long afterwards it stopped giving me the error message after selecting a rom, going back to closing out with no response as I stated before.
I've provided a picture of the initial error message.
So to recap, At first that build would give me an error message. I no longer get this message and MAME has gone back to giving me no response when choosing a rom with HLSL. My HLSL folder and settings in .ini are all at default. previous builds of MAME + HLSL run fine, this problem has been since u5.
Thanks for the response!
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
#265459 - 10/01/11 08:41 PM
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Can you run a game with -verbose and -log turned on? Post the out of each here, please. I'd prefer if you use the 32-bit version I had you download so that no MAMEUI elements can be the cause of error.
for instance:
mame mappy -hlsl -verbose -log
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Tafoid]
#265461 - 10/01/11 08:54 PM
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@mozii,
please run MAME with -log and then paste the contents of error.log? I need to know specifically what part of the D3D init is dying
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: B2K24]
#265474 - 10/02/11 02:34 AM
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Okay back again.
First off let me say, while trying to help get y'all this info was the FIRST TIME I ever ran MAME through command prompt. I honestly never even knew how to do that until now. Normally I ran MAME through the .exe file.
And just for the record Tafoid, I have been using the 32-bit version of MAME you referred me to.
Anyway, MAME runs and loads roms fine through a direct command line. When I try to launch roms through the MAME executable/game list with HLSL enabled, I still sometimes get the D3D error message or no activity at all.
So here's all the different results I got:
mame -log
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Exception at EIP=01DF231C (not found): ACCESS VIOLATION
While attempting to read memory at 0CCF8108
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EAX=02030038 EBX=0698B360 ECX=7FFDF000 EDX=0CCF8100
ESI=0030A2E8 EDI=001D026A EBP=00000000 ESP=0022E790
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Stack crawl:
00000000: 01DF231C (not found)
mame bublbobl -log
pal16l8.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
pal16l8.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
pal16r4.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
WARNING: the game might not run correctly.
Average speed: 100.00% (23 seconds)
mame bublbobl -verbose
Parsing mame.ini
Parsing mame.ini
Video: Monitor 00010001 = "\\.\DISPLAY1" (primary)
Direct3D: Using Direct3D 9
Direct3D: Configuring adapter #0 = NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
Direct3D: Using dynamic textures
Direct3D: YUV format = RGB
Direct3D: Device created at 1680x1050
Direct3D: Max texture size = 4096x4096
DirectSound: Primary buffer: 48000 Hz, 16 bits, 2 channels
RawInput: APIs detected
Input: Adding Mouse #0: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Gun #0: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Kbd #0: HID Keyboard Device
Input: Adding Kbd #1: HID Keyboard Device
Input: Adding Kbd #2: HID Keyboard Device
DirectInput: Using DirectInput 7
pal16l8.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
pal16l8.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
pal16r4.bin NOT FOUND (NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN)
WARNING: the game might not run correctly.
Starting Driver Device 'root'
(missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting Z80 'maincpu'
Starting Z80 'slave'
Starting Z80 'audiocpu'
Starting M6801 'mcu'
Starting Video Screen 'screen'
Starting Speaker 'mono'
(missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting YM2203 'ym1'
Starting YM3526 'ym2'
Starting Driver Device 'root'
(missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting Speaker 'mono'
Starting Driver Device 'root'
Average speed: 100.00% (28 seconds)
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And just for the record, this is the results I got from the error.log file when trying to launch a game from MAME.exe with error and verbose enabled.
Loading rom through MAME executable
D3D message doesn't show
Physical width 1680, height 1050
Soft reset
Loading rom through MAME executable
D3D message shows
Physical width 1680, height 1050
Physical width 1332, height 1020
Physical width 1332, height 1020
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Okay, hope this all helps. Let me know if there's any other information I can give.
Edited by Mozii (10/02/11 09:08 AM)
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
#266199 - 10/13/11 01:42 AM
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Hey guys. Jus wanted to ask, has this problem I mentioned earlier been worked on for u7? Because it's giving me the same issue. Still can't launch a rom through MAME with HLSL enabled.
Jus thought y'all should know in case a fix was attempted here.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
#266200 - 10/13/11 01:50 AM
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> Hey guys. Jus wanted to ask, has this problem I mentioned earlier been worked on for
> u7? Because it's giving me the same issue. Still can't launch a rom through MAME with
> HLSL enabled.
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> Jus thought y'all should know in case a fix was attempted here.
I haven't seen anything submitted for fixes - but it should be functioning for most people fine now.
One question, do you know what version Nvidia Driver you have installed for that XP Machine? There have been instances where recent driver updates have caused crashes and even BSOD in machines.
I'd suggest going to:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
.. then pick the earliest driver available, install it and see if that fixes the issue. Note your current driver version first, though, in case you desire to revert or set up a restore point via OS. Try a couple earlier ones if you feel adventurous.
Beyond that, there isn't much anyone can do at this time.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Mozii]
#266205 - 10/13/11 02:23 AM
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> Excuse me if it's off topic, I never saw any "seam" but I am having a unique problem
> that I haven't heard from others.
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> Should I report my problem and video card as well?
I was under the impression your problem only occured on MAMEUI. MAMEUI is not a supported build anymore.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Tafoid]
#266316 - 10/14/11 07:09 AM
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Mozii
> > Hey guys. Jus wanted to ask, has this problem I mentioned earlier been worked on
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> > u7? Because it's giving me the same issue. Still can't launch a rom through MAME
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> > HLSL enabled.
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Tafoid
> I haven't seen anything submitted for fixes - but it should be functioning for most
> people fine now.
Hi guys, sorry I missed testing HLSL with 0.143u6 but 0.143u7 appears to be working the same goodness for me as between 0.143u3 - 0.143u5. 
I am currently using an ATI HD4670 under XP32.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
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#266322 - 10/14/11 08:33 AM
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> Hi guys, sorry I missed testing HLSL with 0.143u6 but 0.143u7 appears to be working
> the same goodness for me as between 0.143u3 - 0.143u5.
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> I am currently using an ATI HD4670 under XP32.
You didn't miss much. u7 is definitely the way to go for HLSL. Previous versions had bugs with .ini handling.
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Re: WANTED: HLSL "seam" problems in u6
[Re: Tafoid]
#266440 - 10/15/11 10:32 AM
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R. Belmont, earlier I provided pics of the problem in both MAME and MAMEUI. I only showed both because the problem performed differently in either one. Just in case that info could be helpful in providing a fix.
> I haven't seen anything submitted for fixes - but it should be functioning for most
> people fine now.
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> One question, do you know what version Nvidia Driver you have installed for that XP
> Machine? There have been instances where recent driver updates have caused crashes
> and even BSOD in machines.
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> I'd suggest going to:
> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
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> .. then pick the earliest driver available, install it and see if that fixes the
> issue. Note your current driver version first, though, in case you desire to revert
> or set up a restore point via OS. Try a couple earlier ones if you feel adventurous.
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> Beyond that, there isn't much anyone can do at this time.
Thanks Tafoid, but I've actually never updated my video driver before. At the time I was reporting this problem I was still using an old driver from 2007. I tried installing the latest driver, and then the oldest one they have still listed from 2009. Neither solved this problem.
It's strange, HLSL itself works, but for some reason MAME refuses to launch roms through the executable when it's enabled. I can only launch roms through a command line now. Previous versions worked entirely fine. I'm surprised, but it seems like this problem is exclusive to me. Guess these new builds of HLSL don't like my ole 7900GS no more. 
Edited by Mozii (10/15/11 10:34 AM)
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