The thing about the game in MAME is that it has a "NO DAUGHTER BOARD DETECTED" error, like a few Model 3 games: "Emergency Call Ambulance", "The Ocean Hunter", and "Ski Champ". Maybe these games have something that MAME can't really handle.
And when I use Revision A of this game on M1, a few songs are missing and converted into sound effects and high-pitched voice clips. So it must be something that MAME can't handle. The same stuff seemed to occur on MAME32 version 120, because I went through test mode of the game on that version of MAME.
I think you can get past the daughter card message if you mess with it, maybe F2 or something, but then it's a useless 1fps glitch town. This won't bring any new dumps other than main program roms unless some from the previous dump are found to be bad.
> I see. > > The thing about the game in MAME is that it has a "NO DAUGHTER BOARD DETECTED" error, > like a few Model 3 games: "Emergency Call Ambulance", "The Ocean Hunter", and "Ski > Champ". Maybe these games have something that MAME can't really handle. > > And when I use Revision A of this game on M1, a few songs are missing and converted > into sound effects and high-pitched voice clips. So it must be something that MAME > can't handle. The same stuff seemed to occur on MAME32 version 120, because I went > through test mode of the game on that version of MAME.
You really need to do more research. Saying MAME can't handle anything clearly shows you have no idea. Almost everything in MAME is guessed or reverse-engineered over an *extended* period of time. There is no book to look up the missing pieces. The games don't work because of protection issues and these games are incredibly complicated and even more incredibly powerful hardware-wise so major parts of the emulation are also missing. You will likely never see Model 3 games running at full speed in MAME. But actually MAME is not for that purpose anyway. Check the recently released Supermodel if you're interested in trying Model 3 emulation.
> I think you can get past the daughter card message if you mess with it, maybe F2 or > something, but then it's a useless 1fps glitch town. This won't bring any new dumps > other than main program roms unless some from the previous dump are found to be bad.
The "daughter board" message also appears in SuperModel, so the accusations on this thread that MAMEdev is doing something uniquely wrong really annoy me.
But what I meant was that the daughter board might have been too much for MAME to handle, but it may not be that, it might be that the board is too complex to hook up.
> But what I meant was that the daughter board might have been too much for MAME to > handle, but it may not be that, it might be that the board is too complex to hook up.
Or it could mean that nobody (including Bart) has investigated what the games are actually looking for when they show that message. Oh, wait, that's actually true ;-)
> I really do need to look up more about this daughter board thing.
There's nothing to look up. Unless you have the actual arcade and can start unplugging PCBs to see which one triggers the error
The daughter board error doesn't affect anything. If I had to guess, "daughter board" refers to either the MPEG sound board or the motor (force feedback) drive board. Likewise for the "one processor detected" message that some games display (Fighting Vipers 2).
But as RB said, nobody has actually bothered to look into it.
I can tell the daughter board doesn't really do anything that much, because I tested Harley on Supermodel, and I saw the "NO DAUGHTER BOARD DETECTED" screen still, however, I watched through the intro, and saw all the fading-in-from-black effects, and saw all the fading-to-white effects, as shown in the actual arcade machine. I thought the daughter board was somehow for special effects that the M3 can use.
> I can tell the daughter board doesn't really do anything that much, because I tested > Harley on Supermodel, and I saw the "NO DAUGHTER BOARD DETECTED" screen still, > however, I watched through the intro, and saw all the fading-in-from-black effects, > and saw all the fading-to-white effects, as shown in the actual arcade machine. I > thought the daughter board was somehow for special effects that the M3 can use.
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