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interesting question?
#248097 - 03/06/11 06:31 AM


I heard this recently (I am sure we have all heard it at one point). Just give everyone 1 million dollars and the world would be a better place.

I will change it up a bit. Give everyone 1 billion (hey if we are giving out crazy amounts lets do it right). What would happen?

I have some ideas. What do you you guys think would happen?

Keep in mind whatever you do everyone would probably be doing about the same thing.



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Re: interesting question? new [Re: lharms]
#248100 - 03/06/11 07:00 AM


> I heard this recently (I am sure we have all heard it at one point). Just give
> everyone 1 million dollars and the world would be a better place.
>
> I will change it up a bit. Give everyone 1 billion (hey if we are giving out crazy
> amounts lets do it right). What would happen?
>
> I have some ideas. What do you you guys think would happen?
>
> Keep in mind whatever you do everyone would probably be doing about the same thing.

Two thoughts...

The first is that it would be pointless. If everyone in the world had a million (billion, gajillion, whatever) dollars, there would be massive inflation. Prices would rise, the value of a dollar would fall, and your million wouldn't be worth much more than what you have right now. It might benefit the poorest in the very short term, but in the long term everything would go right back to the way it is now.

The second thought is that, if you could do it without throwing the economy into chaos, it still wouldn't benefit the poor in the long run. You can't just give a big wad of money to someone who has nothing and expect them to be able to handle it. You see it all the time with lottery winners, sports stars, and entertainers. They blow it all on ridiculous things, get themselves into all kinds of trouble, and eventually end up with nothing.



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Re: interesting question? new [Re: lharms]
#248118 - 03/06/11 01:37 PM


> I heard this recently (I am sure we have all heard it at one point). Just give
> everyone 1 million dollars and the world would be a better place.
>
> I will change it up a bit. Give everyone 1 billion (hey if we are giving out crazy
> amounts lets do it right). What would happen?
>
> I have some ideas. What do you you guys think would happen?
>
> Keep in mind whatever you do everyone would probably be doing about the same thing.

I would make a paper mache sculpture of a giant toilet with bills, and fill it with the rest of the money.


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Well, what about this question?

What if everything was free? No matter how much money you have, or how little -- wealth would mean nothing.

We come into this world with nothing, and we leave it with nothing (as in we can't take anything with us, but we can have things left behind ).

There's no point in worrying about tomorrow.

eta:... although I will admit there are times it is wise to stock up on things that might be needed in times of hardship. Tomorrow might supply for itself, but when it doesn't - the abundance we have today can be saved for later.

*has been seriously thinking about stocking up on food, and has a bit already*



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Re: interesting question? new [Re: lharms]
#248122 - 03/06/11 02:23 PM


> I heard this recently (I am sure we have all heard it at one point). Just give
> everyone 1 million dollars and the world would be a better place.
>
> I will change it up a bit. Give everyone 1 billion (hey if we are giving out crazy
> amounts lets do it right). What would happen?
>
> I have some ideas. What do you you guys think would happen?
>
> Keep in mind whatever you do everyone would probably be doing about the same thing.

We live in a commercial capitalist society that educates us to associate the value of life with how much money we have, the things we can buy, the places we live, the clothes that we wear. They do this not because it enriches life in any significant way, they do it because we all grow, programmed to consume and feed money back into the machine. it preserves the status quo and allows the people and corps in control to remain so.
Take away all of the smoke and mirrors, though and the value of life has very little to do with money. Other than the security it brings in not having to worry about food and shelter, virtually everything else we value is derived from what we are doing and who we are doing it with. Some of my happiest memories go all the way back to when I was a student, living on virtually f**k all and time spent with the wife and kids.

Looking back on most of your happy memories will evoke situations you spent with friends and family, children and the like. Lifes happiest memories are rarely allied to material things because the reality is we need very few of them. Just a lot of people are raised to associate material wealth with happiness, yet they largely get more miserable the older they get without really knowing why. Its the journey that's fun, if you're born into money and grow without anything to strive for, then material wealth is exposed for the pointless, hollow and non life affirming thing that it is. There is afterall only one direction left to go from the top of the mountain.

If you woke tomorrow to find yourself the only soul left on earth, you could have access to, and use absolutely anything you wanted, you could drive the best cars, live in the finest houses, eat the best food, fill your life with every conceivable luxury, what value would it have? how much would you enjoy yourself? how long could you enjoy yourself for without anyone to share the experience with or view your achievements?

So it makes no difference if everyone is equally wealthy or equally poor. In terms of life it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever, people who live and enjoy life will still do so and those who don't still won't. Your access to 'stuff' is irrelevant.



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Like <nt> new [Re: FatTrucker]
#248125 - 03/06/11 02:44 PM


> > I heard this recently (I am sure we have all heard it at one point). Just give
> > everyone 1 million dollars and the world would be a better place.
> >
> > I will change it up a bit. Give everyone 1 billion (hey if we are giving out crazy
> > amounts lets do it right). What would happen?
> >
> > I have some ideas. What do you you guys think would happen?
> >
> > Keep in mind whatever you do everyone would probably be doing about the same thing.
>
>
> We live in a commercial capitalist society that educates us to associate the value of
> life with how much money we have, the things we can buy, the places we live, the
> clothes that we wear. They do this not because it enriches life in any significant
> way, they do it because we all grow, programmed to consume and feed money back into
> the machine. it preserves the status quo and allows the people and corps in control
> to remain so.
> Take away all of the smoke and mirrors, though and the value of life has very little
> to do with money. Other than the security it brings in not having to worry about food
> and shelter, virtually everything else we value is derived from what we are doing and
> who we are doing it with. Some of my happiest memories go all the way back to when I
> was a student, living on virtually f**k all and time spent with the wife and kids.
>
> Looking back on most of your happy memories will evoke situations you spent with
> friends and family, children and the like. Lifes happiest memories are rarely allied
> to material things because the reality is we need very few of them. Just a lot of
> people are raised to associate material wealth with happiness, yet they largely get
> more miserable the older they get without really knowing why. Its the journey that's
> fun, if you're born into money and grow without anything to strive for, then material
> wealth is exposed for the pointless, hollow and non life affirming thing that it is.
> There is afterall only one direction left to go from the top of the mountain.
>
> If you woke tomorrow to find yourself the only soul left on earth, you could have
> access to, and use absolutely anything you wanted, you could drive the best cars,
> live in the finest houses, eat the best food, fill your life with every conceivable
> luxury, what value would it have? how much would you enjoy yourself? how long could
> you enjoy yourself for without anyone to share the experience with or view your
> achievements?
>
> So it makes no difference if everyone is equally wealthy or equally poor. In terms of
> life it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever, people who live and enjoy life will
> still do so and those who don't still won't. Your access to 'stuff' is irrelevant.



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Re: interesting question? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#248145 - 03/06/11 06:14 PM



>
> Well, what about this question?
>
> What if everything was free? No matter how much money you have, or how little --
> wealth would mean nothing.

If everything were free, there would be no incentive to produce things for other people to use, or to provide the services we all rely on. There is suddenly no electricity, no law enforcement. You need a farm, and everyone takes what you grow. We are reduced to nothing, and society starts over with the same rules we have had this time around. Give it a hundred years or so to get back to something near modernity, since the knowledge is still available.



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The reason a dollar won't do as much for a man as it used to... new [Re: lharms]
#248152 - 03/06/11 07:06 PM


Is because a man isn't willing to do as much for a dollar as he used to.







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Re: The reason a dollar won't do as much for a man as it used to... new [Re: GatKong]
#248154 - 03/06/11 07:24 PM


> Is because a man isn't willing to do as much for a dollar as he used to.

I attribute this to societies loss/distorted sense of pride. Nobody cares about "Being" the best they can be, all they care about is "Having" the best they can have.


Personally I could take the same amount of pride from a floor well mopped that I could from designing the next space shuttle. I'd do either for the same amount of money if I loved the work, and I know I'll love any work that I put my best into.

Maybe I'm old fashion, maybe I'm crazy. Either way, the world can get off my self maintained lawn.


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