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Because everyone in here cares, I'm going to share picture updates on the status of my garage.
Out with the old for obvious reasons...
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A clean slate
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Probably the most important step into building a quality garage is to dig a decent moat. It has to be deep enough to keep the neighbors from borrowing your tools.
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#236033 - 10/10/10 02:39 PM
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Why not construct a decent ramp and build the new garage lets say at least 4ft higher than the old one? Keeps the water off...
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#236034 - 10/10/10 02:44 PM
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> Why not construct a decent ramp and build the new garage lets say at least 4ft higher
> than the old one? Keeps the water off...
WIN! 
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#236036 - 10/10/10 03:39 PM
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> Probably the most important step into building a quality garage is to dig a decent
> moat. It has to be deep enough to keep the neighbors from borrowing your tools.
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#236037 - 10/10/10 03:56 PM
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> Why not construct a decent ramp and build the new garage lets say at least 4ft higher
> than the old one? Keeps the water off...
Hence the back corner...foot higher grade, plus a raised foundation wall a foot above grade.
(we are taking care of the water issue as well) 
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#236179 - 10/12/10 09:05 PM
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> Probably the most important step into building a quality garage is to dig a decent
> moat. It has to be deep enough to keep the neighbors from borrowing your tools.
Was that the result of a water survey or does your borough not require them?
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#237937 - 11/03/10 09:28 PM
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A few more key rules...
1. When planning for your footings/foundation, immediatly smack anyone uttering the words "monolithic", "single pour", or "all at once". Anone passing out advice with a beer in hand, no matter how professional, should not be listened to and possibly smacked as well.
2. If a frost wall is called for, do it traditionally. Dig a wide ditch, pour a footing, form the stem wall, pour again. Trust me, you won't save any money doing it ANY other way. Anyone uttering the words "Tapered footing" should also be smacked.
3. Concrete trucks are heavy, metal, and big. They generally don't play well with asphalt driveways, soft ground, and/or power lines. You may ask, "Just how heavy/big are they?". The answer, no matter your situation, is "way to heavy/big for whatever you are thinking of doing". Plan accordingly.
4. Clay is also heavy. It's so heavy in fact that you shouldn't ever_ever_ever think about touching it with anything that lacks hydraulics. And no matter how much beer they've had recently, your buddies are NOT to be considered hydraulic.
5. Last, but most importantly not least, pay someone to do the excavating and foundation work. I failed to heed this advice even though it was shouted through a bullhorn aimed directly at my face. I now aim the bullhorn at you, hoping that you will pay more attention than I did. It's worth every penny. It's worth sparing every muscle in your back weeks of agonizing strain. It's worth not having a metric assload of dirt to deal with post-excavation. It's worth not falling 2 weeks behind schedule on your pour when your slave labor revolts, and no amount of pizza and beer gets them back. It's worth not having to do lots of math, more math that you'd expect for dumping concrete into dirt.
(6. If you didn't heed the warning above, there is ~one~ bonus. You can re-use the form boards you had to build and make a real nice ice rink for the winter months. You are going to be in too much pain to skate yourself, but your family will enjoy it....)
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Re: How to build a garage, a picture book...
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#237953 - 11/03/10 11:17 PM
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>And no matter how much beer
> they've had recently, your buddies are NOT to be considered hydraulic.
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> 3. Concrete trucks are heavy, metal, and big. They generally don't play well with
> asphalt driveways, soft ground, and/or power lines. You may ask, "Just how heavy/big
> are they?". The answer, no matter your situation, is "way to heavy/big for whatever
> you are thinking of doing". Plan accordingly.
This point kind of reminds me of how when I rented a dumpster to dispose of various large stuff I had it placed in my driveway (otherwise I would have had to put it in the street) before I got the driveway dug up and redone. (Small parts of it were actually missing/deteriorated.) In my mind there was no point in replacing the driveway and then having a truck come in a year later and gouge/scratch it up nicely with a dumpster.
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#237956 - 11/03/10 11:42 PM
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Are you doin' this as a first-timer? It reads like.
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#237958 - 11/04/10 12:05 AM
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> Are you doin' this as a first-timer? It reads like.
Parts. I'm good with the engineering, framing, roofing, electrical, plumbing, and even brickwork. I have always contracted out foundation work, but decided to give it a try on this "small project".
I will continue to contract foundation work out from this point forward. 
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#237968 - 11/04/10 03:56 AM
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> > And no matter how much beer
> > they've had recently, your buddies are NOT to be considered hydraulic.
I thought that was quite good too
Italie, chsgrats. Very entertaining read 
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You know, I felt kinda of bad having several friends over to tear of and re-shingle my roof. At least I had them delivered to the roof top! I don't know if they would have went for hand digging footings for a garage! LOL
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