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Imagine being intimidated by a mere awkward stare?
#380835 - 01/24/19 10:20 AM


Seeing Urherenow's post in the Bin, I could only think that this was what he was referring to.

So the media takes a couple minutes of a video and tells the public to "just believe and not question." Now the teens are being harassed, have had death threats to them and their families, even the lawyers that are building a case against the news outlets that have pushed this Libel / Slander have had threats made against them.

I could pull a Gregf here and embed a slew of pics of all the verified Twitter accounts that have posted things calling for violence, even doxing against the kid in the video. But those are all over the place so...

What the media wanted you to think: A group of teens come up to a poor old Native American Veteran, mocking him, staring him down, wouldn't get out of his way, saying things like "Build the Wall!"

What actually happened: The teens were waiting by the Lincoln Memorial for their bus since they were there for the Right to Life Rally. Near them was an actual hate group, the Black Hebrew Israelites, making racial and homophobic remarks... And the Native American came upon THEM, got in this kids face, beating his drum. And if you've heard or read the Native American's statement on why he did this... He was afraid the black guys were being harassed by the teens!




Unless you live under a rock, you should know the WHOLE story by now.

What makes me angriest are the people that contributed to the harassment and threats made to these teens. Some have retracted their statements, some have even deleted their Twitter accounts. But some (haha) stand their ground, sticking with the false narrative they were initially fed.

I hope, with every fiber of my being, each and every person involved in defaming, threatening, and doxing these kids are sued into oblivion. I'm sure that'd be impossible, but the more the better.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/20...ann/2655300002/



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Re: Imagine being intimidated by a mere awkward stare? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#380837 - 01/24/19 11:00 AM


Thank you. You just brought my blood pressure down to a manageable level.




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Re: Imagine being intimidated by a mere awkward stare? *edit* new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#380840 - 01/24/19 04:49 PM


>I could pull a Gregf here and embed

The DU links that I provide may include some reasonable posts explaining various situations better than what media reporters do for work these days, although some questionable posts and link within the the threads might appear too, but DU website censors those as best possible.


>What the media wanted you to think: A group of teens come up to a poor old Native American
>Veteran, mocking him, staring him down, wouldn't get out of his way,

Most folks can operate beyond the knee jerk reaction and knew there had to be more that would appear in another a day or two of why events happened. I waited to see how events played out before posting.



>What actually happened: The teens were waiting by the Lincoln Memorial for their bus
>since they were there for the Right to Life Rally. Near them was an actual hate group,
>the Black Hebrew Israelites, making racial and homophobic remarks...

The Israelites (never heard of them before....probably east coast thing) were always spouting crazy racist nonsense as I understand when reading comments from those on east coast (DC, NY, Philly). Black version of Westboro Baptist church crazies.

Others there that day heard the Israelites nonsense and knew better to stay away after exchanging verbal arguments. Even the Native Americans knew these guys were nonsense after hearing their stupid stuff before the Native Americans then did their own ritual performance (protest).


A bit more about the BHI group and yes they are a definite nuisance to Hasidic Jews in various parts of northeast region according to one poster.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11719324

I lived most of my life in NYC. These are the guys who confront Jewish people and scream at them for "being fake Jews". Had it happen to myself numerous times.

I believe their main cultural activity to be looking for Hasidic old men (or kids) off on their own and beating the crap out of us for the crime of being Jewish. (There are numerous recent videos of their cultural outings.)
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> And the Native
> American came upon THEM, got in this kids face, beating his drum. And if you've heard or
>read the Native American's statement on why he did this... He was afraid the black guys
>were being harassed by the teens!

The video from one of the Israelites shows the kids somewhat closing in on the Israelites who did have their table and free speech zone already in place. If there was a rumble that did take place and any of the boys did get injured. Again the Catholic church organization would be sued by parents and the high school held liable as well because the chaperones did not do their respective job of keeping kids away from causing any trouble.


Two things missing: The chaperones did not do their job of moving the boys school kids along and away from the Israelites who did already have their established free speech zone already in place as allowed. They were not supposed to move to another location without permission from parks services from what I recall reading.

If no shutdown (another issue itself), then police or park services would have likely intervened and prevented things from getting more out of hand and we would not be watching the events that were captured on video.



>What makes me angriest are the people that contributed to the harassment and threats made
>to these teens. I hope, with every fiber of my being, each and every person involved in
>defaming, threatening, and doxing these kids are sued into oblivion. I'm sure that'd be
>impossible, but the more the better.


It is odd that the same sentiment is not shared towards high school shooting victims (Marjorie S. Douglas High in FL) of last year's school shooting when some were protesting about lack of legislation within the FL boundaries dealing with semi-automatic guns (background checks and other reasonable legislation).

High school senior David Hogg and his family as well as other fellow classmates (a few of them also outspoken as well) from his school were also targeted. They wanted something done within Florida only iirc, and GOP activists whether instate or nation wide going after them with harassments or threats.


Three such examples of right wing side going after either former students (now voting adults), a father of one of the victims, and a crazy lunatic from CA doing some threatening from the west coast.


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Parkland survivor David Hogg sees double standard in defense of Covington Catholic students

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211716818


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Fred Guttenberg replies to Don Jr's "stop trying desperately to destroy my family" tweet.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211703714

Replying to @DonaldJTrumpJr @realDonaldTrump

Fred Guttenberg: When my daughter was murdered in Parkland, your father tweeted the day we buried her blaming her murder on the Russia investigation. It was a known lie. The left did not make her murder about Russia, your dad did. Perhaps, instead of blaming the left, get your dad of Twitter.



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California man accused of threatening families, friends of MSD shooting victims

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211713812

A California man was arrested for allegedly making online threats toward the families of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting victims.
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Aside from the public doxing stuff and the high school temporarily closed for a day or two, there probably won't be any other trouble since the catholic school boys are 'heroes'.




As for the Kenucky all boys Catholic school, time for that school to be transformed by Cincinnati region Archdiocese and include more ethnic students that are Catholic, and maybe become coed instead like other Catholic high schools. Then that way maybe the school won't act and maybe be mistaken for a US civil war confederate school that would make famous confederate officer Nathan Bedford Forrest proud of.


Opinions from those familiar with past experiences dealing with the Kentucky high school that show the makeup of the school.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211712733

Re: Covington High. Episcopal Pastor who knows the school well says he "dreaded" officiating games


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What Catholic-School Alums Think of the MAGA Teens

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211711373

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Edited by gregf (01/24/19 11:17 PM)



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Re: Imagine being intimidated by a mere awkward stare? new [Re: gregf]
#380841 - 01/24/19 05:09 PM


> Two things missing: The chaperones did not do their job of moving the boys school
> kids along and away from the Israelites who did already have their established free
> speech zone already in place as allowed.

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> As for the Kenucky all boys Catholic school, time for that school to be transformed
> by Cincinnati region Archdiocese and include more ethnic students that are Catholic,
> and maybe become coed instead like other Catholic high schools. Then that way maybe
> the school won't act and maybe be mistaken for a US civil war confederate school that
> would make famous confederate officer Nathan Bedford Forrest proud of.

To me, this is the big untold story. This school annually bribes a couple of busloads of its students (with time off and "service credits") to go to Washington to spew the school's anti-abortion hatred, and then (quite obviously) fails to chaperone them. Various videos now circulating showing groups of these students celebrating shirtless, catcalling female passersby and proclaiming "it's not rape if you enjoy it" speak to Boys Gone Wild, with no (visible) adult supervision.



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Re: Imagine being intimidated by a mere awkward stare? new [Re: JWJr]
#380850 - 01/24/19 11:31 PM



>> As for the Kenucky all boys Catholic school, time for that school to be transformed
>> by Cincinnati region Archdiocese and include more ethnic students that are Catholic,
>> and maybe become coed instead like other Catholic high schools. Then that way maybe
>> the school won't act and maybe be mistaken for a US civil war confederate school that
>> would make famous confederate officer Nathan Bedford Forrest proud of.

>To me, this is the big untold story. This school annually bribes a couple of busloads of
>its students (with time off and "service credits") to go to Washington to spew the
>school's anti-abortion hatred, and then (quite obviously) fails to chaperone them.
>Various videos now circulating showing groups of these students celebrating shirtless,
>catcalling female passersby and proclaiming "it's not rape if you enjoy it" speak to Boys
>Gone Wild, with no (visible) adult supervision.


There had been questions about which of the schools that the student that said the comment came from. There were several that attended the rally last week. All it took was one of the high schools were chaperones that did not do their job as they volunteered and probably what will happen is a lot fewer schools going to DC. imo



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Another CovCath tape from last week emerges: "It's not rape if you enjoy it."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211708612

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1087733862283776003
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There is a bit more info of another school that has gone to same rallies over past few years.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11710970

Just fyi, there were kids from at least one other private catholic high school in Kentucky who attended the march, Owensboro Catholic High School. And it's co-ed (unlike Covington) which could explain the girls standing nearby.

I'm not asserting anything, btw. I'm just cautioning against jumping to conclusions. The kid is a creep either way.

https://www.owensborotimes.com/news/2019...father-respond/
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The part that seems to be suspiciously coincidental is this news article. Did the clothing apparel get supplied from the WH counsel staff member while the high school students attended the rally? Some scenario that the WH lawyer arranged for the apparel to be delivered to the alma mater high school and encouraged the boys to wear the clothing at the rallies last week?


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Pat Cipollone, WH Counsel, Covington Catholic Class of 1984

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211712566

Pat Cipollone, CovCath class of 1984, recently took over as White House general counsel. He had previously served as an informal adviser to the president on the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/po...ool/2650238002/

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Who knew? Trump's top White House attorney is Covington Catholic High School graduate

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211712592


What does Cipollone's White House role have to do with last week's incident in Washington, D.C., involving current CovCath students? Absolutely nothing, but it wasn't been widely known that Trump had a top adviser directly connected to CovCath – or to Greater Cincinnati, for that matter.

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